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Torchlight

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54. As it regards the conflict in Ukraine,

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:18 PM

Nov 2022

I've been confident since April that western leadership will coolly assess any actions, and only then act in an appropriate, measured and calculated fashion.

I'd guessed it was a Russian misfire. Others guessed it was deliberate. Still others guessed correctly. I'm holding onto the belief that the defense staffs follow a more prudent and calculated line of effect-response-consequence.

Even though my best guesses are entirely ineffectual, if I took puffed-up credit for guessing heads correctly or a jejune pout that others guessed tails wrong, I'd be forced to admit to a degree of pettiness (only in my case).

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I don't think starting WW lll over an errant missile is prudent. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 OP

You certainly got that right! jimfields33 Nov 2022 #1

Russia didn't go to war with Turkey when it accidentally shot down one of their fighter planes. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #4

Poles who suffered behind the iron curtain GenXer47 Nov 2022 #2

It isn't but nothing is prudent about this situation ck4829 Nov 2022 #3

+1, Russia was in the middle of committing war crimes and doesn't deserve BoD. uponit7771 Nov 2022 #23

Post removed Post removed Nov 2022 #5

I'm flabbergasted by some of these posts. Who is crazy enough to be eager to witness WWIII? tritsofme Nov 2022 #6

It's not Mad_Machine76 Nov 2022 #7

Oh c'mon sarisataka Nov 2022 #8

You are thinking WW I Gore1FL Nov 2022 #14

Whoops, deleted the reference by accident sarisataka Nov 2022 #15

If I Were a Polish Citizen FrankTC Nov 2022 #9

Didn't Reagan suggest something of that sort? BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #12

iron Dome vs. Star Wars FrankTC Nov 2022 #16

Certainly need to slow walk this and determine exactly what happened... Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #10

No matter what happened, Russia is responsible. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #19

+1, uponit7771 Nov 2022 #20

I don't disagree, but launching WWIII is not an answer either...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #21

I didn't posit a consequence. I just assigned responsibility. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #25

People need to calm the fuck down. Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #26

Rec. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #11

True. Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #13

IMO starting WWIII over a dust explosion would be worse. Model35mech Nov 2022 #17

"over an errant missile " ... that's giving Putler et al too much BoD, still not worth WWIII uponit7771 Nov 2022 #18

We won't. No need for the hand-wringing. Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #22

Not for the first time, I'm deeply grateful that Joseph Biden is tending the helm of state. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #24

.... instead of some of the posters on this site today. DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #34

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #42

War is messy. Europeans may get killed. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #27

Add to that, they are still investigating. Xolodno Nov 2022 #28

There is a chance it was errant defense missile. Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #29

it was a cruise missile... Sancho Nov 2022 #31

Yes-Kh-101 cruise missiles Chuuku Davis Nov 2022 #39

no..but giving Ukraine 50 jets and some long range missiles and some defense systems seems ok... Sancho Nov 2022 #30

And If It Turns Out To Be An "Errant Missile" It Won't. ruet Nov 2022 #32

Actually within 30 seconds Chuuku Davis Nov 2022 #40

Indeed Zeitghost Nov 2022 #33

DSB, you are SO right-also this is CLEARLY a Trump-Putin provocation NewsCenter28 Nov 2022 #35

Ww3 no? Give Ukraine atacms, yes! Calculating Nov 2022 #36

I'm with you! so I'm KICKING this later at night... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #37

People posting no information about what You're talking about is prudent!!! USALiberal Nov 2022 #38

Do DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #41

Well..... USALiberal Nov 2022 #46

Fair enough DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #47

Here is what you could of added.... USALiberal Nov 2022 #48

And after reading my post again, I should've been nicer.... USALiberal Nov 2022 #50

I'm just glad it was likely a Ukrainian missile. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #51

Me too! What a mess! Nt USALiberal Nov 2022 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #45

Turns out to have been a UKR S-300 missile that was fired in self-defense Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #43

That is a relief. It shows Putin while evil isn't mad. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #44

Hitting a field just inside Poland with intent never made strategic sense to me. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #49

I appreciate that Biden won't be triggered by provocations. David__77 Nov 2022 #53

As it regards the conflict in Ukraine, Torchlight Nov 2022 #54

Fortunately, Internet posters don't get to decide MineralMan Nov 2022 #55