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Zeitghost

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27. They have drawn maps that favor them
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 07:29 PM
Nov 2022

And we have drawn maps that favor us. And we've both had maps challenged and tossed in court. And before anyone whines about "bothsideism" it's absolutely true and can proved with a simple comparison of % of votes to % of seats won. You can call it gerrymandering or describe it another way, but when those two numbers start to drift apart in states with more than 2-3 seats, political gamesmanship is taking place.

Personally I hate it, but the math tells me it's a wash at the national level and while it has other implications (like moving both parties away from the majority of voters in the middle) I don't have a huge problem with a party that receives X% of votes also winning ~X% of the seats.

If they had more votes (and they do) and they played these games in Red States to a further extant than we did in Blue States, they would have won even more seats. The fact that the percentage of seats won is very close to the percentage of votes cast for both parties tells me that it was a level playing field. It may not have been a just or fair field, but it looks as if the bias was present on both sides in more or less equal amounts.

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It used to be the citizens would select their politicians - it's the reverse now. Probatim Nov 2022 #1
The GOP received 4 million more votes ITAL Nov 2022 #2
With such a slim House majority, gerrymandering made all the difference In It to Win It Nov 2022 #4
Dems also ran unopposed ITAL Nov 2022 #13
They got more votes Zeitghost Nov 2022 #15
I'm not denying they got more votes. They got more votes. In It to Win It Nov 2022 #21
They have drawn maps that favor them Zeitghost Nov 2022 #27
But again, my focus is on the legality of it. That was the point of my original post In It to Win It Nov 2022 #29
It's illegal here as well Zeitghost Nov 2022 #30
I gotta disagree BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #5
how many million Democratic votes were suppressed? FoxNewsSucks Nov 2022 #6
I don't know inthewind21 Nov 2022 #11
1 too many uponit7771 Nov 2022 #18
A point that means little in this context, we know gerrymandering helped GZP which isn't very ... uponit7771 Nov 2022 #17
Ridiculous. I wish other states had the option we had here in Michigan to put an catbyte Nov 2022 #3
We tried to do that in OH too .... it got shot down. Botany Nov 2022 #7
In fairness to the Ohio Supreme Court, they did strike down the gerrymandered map In It to Win It Nov 2022 #19
We did that in Florida in 2010 In It to Win It Nov 2022 #14
How can they do that? It's unconstitutional. Are all of the judges in FL up the GQP's ass? catbyte Nov 2022 #20
Yes they are... but the particular trial judge that heard the case did In It to Win It Nov 2022 #22
Wow. catbyte Nov 2022 #25
Here in Florida In It to Win It Nov 2022 #26
Ah, so the Governor appoints SC judges in Florida. Here in Michigan, they're elected for an 8-year catbyte Nov 2022 #28
A child molester protector yankee87 Nov 2022 #8
yes they did. They are not legitimate. samsingh Nov 2022 #9
What happened in OH in 2022 did not need to happen. Botany Nov 2022 #16
they took control of state legislator so they could cheat and now we are surprised republianmushroom Nov 2022 #10
Exactly inthewind21 Nov 2022 #12
DeathSantis stole 2 or 3 seats by gerrymandering in Florida LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #23
One DUer from Tennessee has posted here that Nashville had 2 Congressional seats that were and ... Botany Nov 2022 #24
Gerrymandering in KY diluted Dem votes around the capitol. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #31
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