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sarisataka

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14. NATO thought otherwise
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 12:50 PM
Nov 2022

Regarding military force but they did not immediately jump to that conclusion.

On the evening of 12 September 2001, less than 24 hours after the attacks, the Allies invoked the principle of Article 5. Then NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson subsequently informed the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the Alliance's decision.

The North Atlantic Council – NATO’s principal political decision-making body – agreed that if it determined that the attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it would be regarded as an action covered by Article 5. On 2 October, once the Council had been briefed on the results of investigations into the 9/11 attacks, it determined that they were regarded as an action covered by Article 5.


On 4 October, once it had been determined that the attacks came from abroad, NATO agreed on a package of eight measures to support the United States. On the request of the United States, it launched its first ever anti-terror operation – Eagle Assist – from mid-October 2001 to mid-May 2002. It consisted in seven NATO AWACS radar aircraft that helped patrol the skies over the United States; in total 830 crew members from 13 NATO countries flew over 360 sorties. This was the first time that NATO military assets were deployed in support of an Article 5 operation.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

20/20 hindsight always gives us the opportunity to critique what may have been the best course of action. Unfortunately actions taken at the time have to be taken without such knowledge.

For example, while all supported Biden's move to withdraw from Afghanistan, many believed the promises of a new, kinder, gentler Taliban. It was said the Taliban saw the advantages offered by participating in the modern world and would not go back to their old ways. Afghanistan would be a better place for all Afghans with US troops gone. You may have noticed a lack of Taliban supporters lately.
Not in the forseeable future. Ukraine is doing just fine on its own. Russian armed forces are ... marble falls Nov 2022 #1
Only if the subject member country or the North Atlantic Council invokes Article 5 Ocelot II Nov 2022 #2
I think this is interesting. The last time article 5 was invoked... ColinC Nov 2022 #6
9/11 resulted in NATO authorizing itself to be involved in defensive military actions Ocelot II Nov 2022 #9
I was referring to afghanistan ColinC Nov 2022 #11
It was never really invoked, only formally ... TomWilm Nov 2022 #24
When specific DUers say it should. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #3
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #4
Hahahaha! Ocelot II Nov 2022 #10
Whenever NATO feels like it. Sneederbunk Nov 2022 #5
When an attack on a NATO member sarisataka Nov 2022 #7
So if the decision you described was made on faulty evidence ColinC Nov 2022 #8
If the decision was made I would support it. sarisataka Nov 2022 #12
I would disagree that the Post-9/11 decision was "cautious" ColinC Nov 2022 #13
NATO thought otherwise sarisataka Nov 2022 #14
I was a sophomore in high school and knew it was a bad idea ColinC Nov 2022 #15
Jens Stoltenberg is stepping down as SecGen next year. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #18
Or perhaps the people appointed in those positions can utilize common sense ColinC Nov 2022 #19
Or Internet message board commenters who claim to know more about Ocelot II Nov 2022 #20
Having a moral compass and common sense is ColinC Nov 2022 #22
👍 TomWilm Nov 2022 #25
I was an SNCO at that time sarisataka Nov 2022 #21
This sounds accurate from what we seem to know right now ColinC Nov 2022 #23
1945 Kennah Nov 2022 #16
No War!! Baggies Nov 2022 #17
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