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emulatorloo

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31. Former Iowan, thanks for the post.

Thu Nov 17, 2022, 01:15 PM

Nov 2022

I love the state and did a lot of GOTV there.

I’m torn though. I think the state is lost for decades.

Republicans have poisoned the well. Iowa City, Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, and Davenport can no longer outvote Iowans who have swallowed the Trump lie.

I also believe the “Red Tsunami” propaganda suppressed those Democratic areas. How many Democrats in Iowa City and CR sat home because of that? The Iowa Republicans vote no matter what.

I don’t think the National Party is the responsible party here. As Brooklynite notes, they have not given up on the Midwest.

If the Trump spell gets broken, if Fox stops feeding people Trump propaganda as they have promised then maybe they’ll be some changes.

I’m am still a little hopeful and I am so grateful for you, Peacetrain. Keep up the good fight.

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Okay.. the elections are done.. so now I will tell you about Iowa [View all] Peacetrain Nov 2022 OP

Yes, absolutely! SharonAnn Nov 2022 #1

Every State counts!! secondwind Nov 2022 #2

At least you're in "fly over country". We in Minnesota are in "north of fly over country" progree Nov 2022 #3

And yet, here we are. The writer was wrong, Minnesota did not almost go Red.... the_sly_pig Nov 2022 #116

Those in deep red areas.... Ohio Joe Nov 2022 #4

Texas needs help too. ananda Nov 2022 #5

This. The Dems won't invest here HelpImSurrounded Nov 2022 #17

A friend of mine has been running "The Lone Star Project" for decades DFW Nov 2022 #79

That's been my policy for awhile. ananda Nov 2022 #91

Iowa captive here ... not ecrtain it would have helped with the redrawn districts JT45242 Nov 2022 #6

I agree with much of your post, but Iowa is not gerrymandered rurallib Nov 2022 #65

I don't live iin Iowa, but I know you're right soldierant Nov 2022 #109

Point 1: We're not ignoring "flyover country" brooklynite Nov 2022 #7

Then why was Dean successful with the 50-state strategy? Gore1FL Nov 2022 #11

what's the evidence for it working under Dean? LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #14

2006 and 2008. nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #15

2008 had a lot of other factors behind it than Dean. LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #16

Let's look at the bookends Gore1FL Nov 2022 #19

You left something out. brooklynite Nov 2022 #26

Imagine if we had the 50-state strategy going still. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #30

Define - specifically - what the "50 State Strategy" is that you think we don't have. brooklynite Nov 2022 #32

For your education: Gore1FL Nov 2022 #50

I'm all for competing in every state, but again, money is limiting and some states are likely LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #105

Coulb be that...2018 we won because of Trump blowback. progressoid Nov 2022 #59

Dobbs did a lot of heavy lifting this election Sympthsical Nov 2022 #83

Yep. We are going to have to do some serious getting our shit together before 2024 progressoid Nov 2022 #106

I think that there WAS a 'red wave'... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #112

Wikipedia on the 50 state strategy worth a read LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #39

When we prioritized all 50 states under Dean it seemed to work pretty well. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #52

Yes. Unpopular wars, housing bubble burst, economy horrible, unemployment increasing. betsuni Nov 2022 #96

Dean invested money in State Party building brooklynite Nov 2022 #21

Then what changed after he left that made it all collapse? nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #22

When did "it all collapse"? brooklynite Nov 2022 #24

Interesting... relatedly in the Obama years we lost a lot of statehouses and now we are rightfully LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #40

When Dean left and they stopped the strategy. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #51

And you're saying they never started it again? brooklynite Nov 2022 #58

I can only assume you didn't bother to read the article I linked. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #62

Well, I'll assign blame to the Iowa Democratic Party bello Nov 2022 #20

And I can blame the Indiana Dem party for their anemic performance here lately LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #41

True, all of it Bettie Nov 2022 #55

This progressoid Nov 2022 #64

Why should voters have to get "excited" about a candidate? LisaM Nov 2022 #70

Leadership has many intangible assets bello Nov 2022 #87

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #95

You being cross at people won't help Democrats win elections. Mariana Nov 2022 #111

They need to take a few lessons from the Michigan Democratic Party. catbyte Nov 2022 #84

JHC: Neither CO, AZ, Pennsylvania, or AZ are :"flyover country" hlthe2b Nov 2022 #33

The OP was comparing "flyover country" against "coastal" brooklynite Nov 2022 #74

To which you pointed to these NON-Flyover states to counter accusation Dems didn't hlthe2b Nov 2022 #76

And your definition is? brooklynite Nov 2022 #78

I ansered that in my first reply to you. This is the typical definition used by political media hlthe2b Nov 2022 #81

"Iowa has not been seen as competitive in a number of years." progressoid Nov 2022 #71

Competitive as in: NONE of four House seats... brooklynite Nov 2022 #75

Regarding Wisconsin: Ron Johnson re-elected. Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #113

Yes. When Dean was Chair we didn't win every race either. brooklynite Nov 2022 #114

Thanks. Agree about how leadership are stuck on their ideas of "winnability" & "flyover country." ancianita Nov 2022 #8

I fear the barrage of emails requesting donations. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2022 #9

I hear you. Unfortunately. I don't count Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #10

I think there's only one person on this thread Bettie Nov 2022 #56

There are Rethuglicans who run unopposed -- WTAF? OMGWTF Nov 2022 #12

How much money would it take to make Iowa competitive? LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #13

Iowa native here Blappy Nov 2022 #18

Nailed it. Sogo Nov 2022 #42

It's a national problem, particularly acute in Iowa Blappy Nov 2022 #46

I totally agree. Sogo Nov 2022 #54

Thanks for trying to explain it Bettie Nov 2022 #23

Effective messaging can come from volunteers who know how to work the platforms FakeNoose Nov 2022 #25

Same happened in North Carolina. yardwork Nov 2022 #27

Reclaimed VA, NC? I don't think so. mwooldri Nov 2022 #28

IMHO KS Toronado Nov 2022 #29

Former Iowan, thanks for the post. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #31

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #98

We've discussed this before mountain grammy Nov 2022 #34

Theresa Greenfield raised $55 million in 2020 BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #35

Joni Ernst raised only $30 million by comparison. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #36

But the Koch bros super PAC spent a crap ton JT45242 Nov 2022 #47

My two oldest are probably going to get out Bettie Nov 2022 #53

Greenfield seems like a nice person Bettie Nov 2022 #57

That is a crucial point! druidity33 Nov 2022 #86

And we need to find a way to get a message out without Bettie Nov 2022 #93

LIKE republianmushroom Nov 2022 #37

Agree Missouri also jonstl08 Nov 2022 #38

You are correct moniss Nov 2022 #43

I don't think it's about the coasts iemanja Nov 2022 #44

Florida was also flyover country this cycle. That's an observation, not a complaint. hay rick Nov 2022 #45

I'm with you, Peacetrain. The DNC wrote off Montana, too, and Monica Tranel only lost our new House LaMouffette Nov 2022 #48

I don't know who said it, but I read it on DU JMCKUSICK Nov 2022 #49

Dean's 50-State Strategy BlueMTexpat Nov 2022 #60

And it was explained to you, in great detail Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #61

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #99

Dr. Dean had a prescription for success. calimary Nov 2022 #63

And since then, Citizens United Bettie Nov 2022 #72

That's exactly how I remember it. Kid Berwyn Nov 2022 #80

This thread is a bitter pill to swallow but I'm thankful for the perspective. mahina Nov 2022 #66

I agree completely. lees1975 Nov 2022 #67

it felt like when Dean was gone, Democrats immediately wanted to burn what he did to the ground rurallib Nov 2022 #68

Yes, agreed Bettie Nov 2022 #94

"Trump's payments to farmers hit all-time high moondust Nov 2022 #69

Absofuckinglutely! UpInArms Nov 2022 #73

Fans of Dean's 50 State Strategy: the DNC send money to EVERY STATE EVERY MONTH brooklynite Nov 2022 #77

Let me first say that I know nothing about Iowa. I have never even been there. DFW Nov 2022 #82

Rob Sand rocks, I have been following him for several years. Celerity Nov 2022 #97

We met a couple of years before that article came out. DFW Nov 2022 #108

The state went for Obama, so what happened treestar Nov 2022 #85

Trump happened. Mariana Nov 2022 #89

Tom Harken was from Iowa. It definitely used to be a swing state. Tomconroy Nov 2022 #115

Hillary fought to the end to win in Iowa. StevieM Nov 2022 #88

And I remember a lot of criticism for her visit to Arizona. betsuni Nov 2022 #100

Which was particularly absurd since she was leading in the polls there for most of the race. (eom) StevieM Nov 2022 #107

Let's face it. JPPaverage Nov 2022 #90

Kick 🦵 Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #92

REdistricting has made many states difficult to get realy work done. Iowa Maps TigressDem Nov 2022 #101

Similar has happened in Florida AmBlue Nov 2022 #102

The RW propaganda machine is at work right now. How do you get through that noise? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #103

Democrats are not ignoring your so-called flyover country - the heartland of America. Economic Martin68 Nov 2022 #104

THANK YOU! betsuni Nov 2022 #110

A favorite lie of Sarah Palin and her Tea Party friends. Martin68 Nov 2022 #117