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Scrivener7

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20. No. The answer is that we need to pay enough for goods and

Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

Nov 2022

services to allow those who provide them to survive.

Do you ever buy a sandwich from a shop? Are you good with making the person making it for you need to choose between a roof and food in their table? Do you disrespect them and the honest work they are doing so much as to force them into choices like that?

This can go two ways. Either the shop continues to be "profitable" for the owner (and who knows what level of profit the owner requires) while the workers can't survive on what they make or the profit is lower and the prices are higher and the workers get to have both a roof AND food on a regular basis. Ah, luxury!

If the latter doesn't work, the business model was never viable in the first place.

If you take all of a person's working hours and can't pay a living wage in return, the business model isn't viable. And the answer is not to starve people because we don't respect the work they do.

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On the other hand, if you can't run a business that pays a fair wage to employees, 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #1

I guess this is an example of Social Darwinism? COL Mustard Nov 2022 #2

Well considering the company gets to write off salary and benefits of Bluethroughu Nov 2022 #3

Stores have to make a profit to survive. former9thward Nov 2022 #5

"Fight for fifteen" was controversial three years ago Takket Nov 2022 #7

Fifteen bucks an hour couldn't even pay the rent in most of the country. Bluethroughu Nov 2022 #10

Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #12

The Fight for Fifteen began in 2012, was adopted by others later without credit who claimed it betsuni Nov 2022 #13

How many stores did they own? What other real estate did they own? Bluethroughu Nov 2022 #9

Your posts demonstrate a severe lack of knowledge about how businesses operate. former9thward Nov 2022 #22

Average rent in Cambridge is $3250 per month. Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #4

learn this littlewolf Nov 2022 #15

Anti-labor Democrats... r�is�n_dubh Nov 2022 #16

If that sandwich shop could not pay a living wage, Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #18

again buy the shop littlewolf Nov 2022 #19

No. The answer is that we need to pay enough for goods and Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #20

So eliminate all shops and restaurants? former9thward Nov 2022 #23

So maintain a slave class who work two and three minimum wage jobs Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #26

So get rid of all small businesses, former9thward Nov 2022 #27

Are you really denying that, if you take all of someone's working hours, Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #29

And what's my solution? Here: if your business plan requires Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #30

Any business that can't pay a living wage is not making the world a better place. hunter Nov 2022 #21

In this "real life" you speak of, Maru Kitteh Nov 2022 #6

Ach, maybe you are right. Eko Nov 2022 #8

Maybe they'll reopen under a new name without a union? Duncan Grant Nov 2022 #11

Damn Solly Mack Nov 2022 #14

"Welcome to real life" -- the place where the player who holds all the cards can choose to walk away WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #17

lol this fuckin place WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #24

Welcome to dystopia is more like it. Marcus IM Nov 2022 #25

Liberal Dems don't support the things you may support. former9thward Nov 2022 #28

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Lol. Welcome to DU. But why do you want to be here if "they" are all so beneath you? Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #32

Easy. They're here to tell us libs how wrong we all are! 😉 ShazzieB Nov 2022 #35

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