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jcgoldie

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Mon Nov 21, 2022, 11:11 AM

Nov 2022

Almost nobody gets shot in Japan and it isn't because there is no bigotry.

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The root cause of this latest massacre was not hatred. [View all] BWdem4life Nov 2022 OP

+1 jcgoldie Nov 2022 #1

I'm waiting to hear how A to B happened Sympthsical Nov 2022 #2

Connections. His grandpa is a MAGA politician. tblue37 Nov 2022 #3

I actually think the 'root cause' is the hatred ... sorry to disagree (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #4

Agreed. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #28

100 percent (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #34

AND the main reason this hate has increased - 1500 radio stations excusing and pushing it to certainot Nov 2022 #46

Definitely. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #48

agree republianmushroom Nov 2022 #39

Agreed! ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #56

Yup. Why go shoot up a bunch of people if you don't hate them? GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #57

Agreed. TomSlick Nov 2022 #63

I get the feeling the sheriffs office was bending over backwards to protect him Walleye Nov 2022 #5

It IS the guns. It's not mental illness, all countries have mental illness. AndyS Nov 2022 #6

The root cause is hate, but the fact that guns are available allow them to act in evil fashion onecaliberal Nov 2022 #7

Nope, it's hatred. Jirel Nov 2022 #8

The hatred has always been there. Always, period. AndyS Nov 2022 #21

Thought exercise for you here Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #35

Guns access, right wing paranoia, christian paranoia Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #9

I'd say it was conservative/Republican politics. RockRaven Nov 2022 #10

They get the guns Marthe48 Nov 2022 #11

Nope. It's hate. Tree-Hugger Nov 2022 #12

GUN Crime not just crime is America's biggest problem. live love laugh Nov 2022 #13

Yeah, it's the guns. sop Nov 2022 #14

The ROOT cause is hate sarisataka Nov 2022 #15

So try taking out hate without a gun. Can't see the connection? nt AndyS Nov 2022 #22

Hate is the root cause sarisataka Nov 2022 #23

Boy, that's a reach. Anything but guns, it's always anything but guns AndyS Nov 2022 #29

So arson would have been acceptable sarisataka Nov 2022 #31

Really? That's the best ya' got? AndyS Nov 2022 #33

Where have I ever indicated sarisataka Nov 2022 #36

And just to be clear I didn't say you tolerate gun violence. AndyS Nov 2022 #43

Violence against LGBTQI+ persons has a very long history in this country . . . markpkessinger Nov 2022 #54

These murders were gay bashing done with a gun. irisblue Nov 2022 #16

Amen! markpkessinger Nov 2022 #49

It used to be easier to buy guns Kaleva Nov 2022 #17

It takes 108 seconds to buy a gun legally. AndyS Nov 2022 #25

Nothing you say contradicts what I said Kaleva Nov 2022 #51

I Think It's RobinA Nov 2022 #18

People didn't pay much attention when the victims were blacks, Native Americans Kaleva Nov 2022 #19

Soooo you're saying that LGBTQ are somehow taking attention away AndyS Nov 2022 #32

All minorities are at risk llashram Nov 2022 #45

You never heard of lynchings or the mass murder of Native Americans Kaleva Nov 2022 #52

Hatred wasn't the root cause, but it was definitely a factor. Initech Nov 2022 #20

I did the same. We are weaponizing (literally!) hatred against gay people! CTyankee Nov 2022 #24

Hate was the motive, guns the means DavidDvorkin Nov 2022 #26

I disagree, and I'd rather live in a place with guns and without hate than the other way around. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #27

Not a root cause. It was necessary but not sufficient cause for mass shooting SYFROYH Nov 2022 #30

Both/and - hatred AND easy access. Not sure why the need to get so Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2022 #37

It is both n/t malaise Nov 2022 #38

Doesn't hold water - almost EVERYONE in America has access to guns and ammo. It's HATRED. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2022 #40

Switzerland is armed to the teeth. How many gay bars in Switzerland get shot up? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2022 #41

The Swiss even shoot holes in their cheese IronLionZion Nov 2022 #47

There are too many white nationalist and/or christofash scum there for my taste Celerity Nov 2022 #61

The Swiss have 27 guns per 100 people, we have 140 guns per 100 AndyS Nov 2022 #50

The Swiss process? former9thward Nov 2022 #55

But wiki says the Swiss require a permit to buy a gun. AndyS Nov 2022 #58

Can you buy an automatic weapons in the U.S.? former9thward Nov 2022 #59

You seemed to have missed the body of my post, so AndyS Nov 2022 #60

K&R for, excellent framing. UTUSN Nov 2022 #42

It's not mutually exclusive IronLionZion Nov 2022 #44

Please stop trying to minimize the role of hate/homophobia in attacks like this! markpkessinger Nov 2022 #53

The chicken and the egg. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #62