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142. I don't think it's disrespectful

Reply to Snake Alchemist (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:35 AM

Jan 2012

Usually, when it is used that way (as Jeebus and Jeezus) it's invariably being used as an expletive—as is, "Jeebus, those Republicans are stupid!"

I think people don't want to use the actual word Jesus as a curse word in these contexts; that is to say, to take a the name in vain. That would seem disrespectful.

Let me say, that I am guilty of using it on rare occasion in this way, and that is my reasoning. I am not a Christian; and in the Jewish faith you are never supposed to write the name "G_d" out (whence leaving the blank). Even though we don't believe in the divinity of Jesus, I wonder if many Jews, like myself, think it would be wrong to write the name "Jesus" and use it in a demeaning way. That's what I've always thought at least.

But if it really bothers people, I'll just use the real spelling. Would it be disrespectful to say "Jesus, those Republicans are stupid"? It makes me uncomfortable to do so.

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I've seen Jesus referred to as Jeebus and Jeezus. [View all] Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP

Is there a rule against it? Rex Jan 2012 #1

I was not citing a rule nor do I think there should be one. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #6

Oh Rex Jan 2012 #7

Do we REALLY have to do to Christians what Republicans do to everyone else? Zalatix Jan 2012 #41

It's rude, insensitive, and disruptive. LoZoccolo Jan 2012 #69

Well did you alert on this thread? Rex Jan 2012 #157

What? n/t LoZoccolo Jan 2012 #158

This Catholic finds it insulting but I'm emilyg Jan 2012 #2

and some catholics don't shanti Jan 2012 #49

I also find it insulting xmas74 Jan 2012 #59

get used to it DontTreadOnMe Jan 2012 #122

Isn't it great when you can rationalize disrespect of people for actions of others? joeglow3 Jan 2012 #130

I never asked for an example. xmas74 Jan 2012 #133

All this time, I've been reading these alternate terms EFerrari Jan 2012 #71

It depends on how DevonRex Jan 2012 #91

When it's used to mock or insult others, I think it is very antagonistic and out of place. cbayer Jan 2012 #3

Good analogies Broderick Jan 2012 #4

Hadn't thought of it and I certainly wouldn't use the Buddhist one. GoneOffShore Jan 2012 #15

But Buddha definitely did not miss many meals so it seemed appropriate as an example. :) nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #21

"The Buddha did not miss many meals" Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #161

That shows that you don't know much about some of the more extreme varieties Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #82

????? Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #129

I prefer JC but then again I am not a Christian. Left coast liberal Jan 2012 #5

If you're not a Christian, then using JC really makes no sense at all... markpkessinger Jan 2012 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #8

I am not asking for a rule. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #13

Or polmaven Jan 2012 #34

how do you feel about xtian? ret5hd Jan 2012 #9

Absolutely fine. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10

Thought it was Xian. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #12

I've seen both hyphenate Jan 2012 #98

Remember, that is based on X (Chi) Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #79

Really? Not according to the perpetually offended here. ret5hd Jan 2012 #118

Well, I can't help ignorance Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #124

It is the X in this thing: jberryhill Jan 2012 #126

Do you charge a fee to staighten 'em out? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #143

I don't call it a fee. It's a "love offering" jberryhill Jan 2012 #156

Ha! Critters2 Jan 2012 #223

I use Jeebus... one_voice Jan 2012 #14

That makes sense to me. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17

You know that 'Jebus' come from a Simpsons episode, right???? msanthrope Jan 2012 #16

I am aware. Very funny episode with Betty White. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #18

Blasphemy is a victimless crime, you know. msanthrope Jan 2012 #24

You could excuse a lot of ill SaintPete Jan 2012 #37

Stop using logic. GoneOffShore Jan 2012 #39

I imagine Theo Van Gogh would beg to differ. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #42

And we finally get to the heart of the matter. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #68

What heart? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #70

If you say so. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #73

You can believe whatever you like. That point is also relevant to the discussion. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #74

Fatwa envy. Not pretty. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #81

Not sure how you could see envy in that refutation. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #136

I shall never accuse you of self-awareness, then. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #154

I will forego accusing you of reaching erroneous conclusions then. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #176

Fatwa envy. I love it! It fits so perfectly. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #144

PZ Myers coined that phrase. I cannot claim it. msanthrope Jan 2012 #153

Blasphemy didn't kill Van Gogh BB1 Jan 2012 #208

Theo Van Gogh was a victim of murder, not blasphemy. -nt- DireStrike Jan 2012 #211

That's a bit like saying someone was a victim of a bullet and not a gun. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #212

No it isnt. DireStrike Jan 2012 #226

Yes it is. No I do not :). nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #227

They could smite the heathens who say Jebus!! adigal Jan 2012 #86

I suspect 'fatwa envy' is very real on the part of some wingnut Xtians. msanthrope Jan 2012 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #164

When used derogatorily, I think it's unneccessary and petty. pinto Jan 2012 #19

Well when you go into a restaurant and find that you need to wait at the bar grantcart Jan 2012 #20

+1 Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #102

Even "Jesus" isn't his real name. Archae Jan 2012 #22

Actually, no, the New Testament was first written in Greek Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #83

Jeebus is the person who hates the poor, the sick, and the imprisoned. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #23

I never realized where it came from until this thread treestar Jan 2012 #30

Well put. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #31

i like that definition and distinction... hlthe2b Jan 2012 #36

I just haven't seen anything similar for those that pervert the teachings of Muhammad. nt. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #38

Ask Dan Savage to write a column about it. GoneOffShore Jan 2012 #107

+1 JoePhilly Jan 2012 #62

perhaps we should burn all blaspemers at the stake - The UN etc are heading that direction nt msongs Jan 2012 #25

Jeebus is a Simpson's reference. The joke is on Homer. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #163

lighten up, francis spanone Jan 2012 #27

An alternate form is 'chayssus'. lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #28

Personally sharp_stick Jan 2012 #29

Don't you mean Woden? Archae Jan 2012 #33

DING DING DING DING! Agreed. nt left coaster Jan 2012 #44

When I say "Geebus" I am specifically NOT referring to Jesus... hlthe2b Jan 2012 #32

doesn't bother me hfojvt Jan 2012 #35

You've given me an interesting idea for chocolate milk company. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #40

On Halloween he is BooHammad, and he likes bacon wrapped sheep (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2012 #43

"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #45

Ba Ba Buddha! Ba Ba Buddha! Ba Ba Buddha! zbdent Jan 2012 #46

I'm recommending because I think it's an interesting question. I find it antogonistic and funny. Gregorian Jan 2012 #47

When you can't laugh at your self who can you laugh at? Drale Jan 2012 #50

Considering the historical oppression perpetrated in the name of a mythical sky fairy, AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #51

As an Episcopalian, I'm not in the least offended... markpkessinger Jan 2012 #52

Amen! hyphenate Jan 2012 #106

As an Episcopalian, I am offended. kwassa Jan 2012 #138

I suppose that Shadowflash Jan 2012 #53

+1 n/t customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #65

Excellent! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #184

Preach it, Shadowflash. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #206

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jan 2012 #239

You Forgot Jaysus! we can do it Jan 2012 #54

I think it is unnecessarily rude. nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #55

Let's see what Tommy Lee Jones has to say about it Scootaloo Jan 2012 #56

When Muslims in this country start behaving the way most 'Christians' do The Doctor. Jan 2012 #57

Seriously? Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #99

LOL! Rex Jan 2012 #225

When a large group of people make asses of themselves the way so many Christians have, The Doctor. Jan 2012 #237

No, you didn't and no, you haven't. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #238

Then I'm not talking about them. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #245

That is the problem with stereotypes and blanket statements Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #246

Mulsims no better kwolf68 Jan 2012 #230

Mooohammad is pretty funny. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #58

How about "Badda Bing Badda Buddha" ?? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #61

That made me laugh, but I can be pretty immature. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #64

me too ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #119

Sounds like a good name for a fast-food vegetarian restaurant...run by The Mob. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #76

Maybe an Indian - Italian Fusion restaurant. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #120

Not the same KT2000 Jan 2012 #60

The other one I've seen is God vs. Dog Renew Deal Jan 2012 #63

I hadn't seen those posts, but I agree. Disrespect to others' religion is not cool. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #66

Why? He's not the only person for whom we have 'nicknames'. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #67

Blasphamy is in the ear of the auditor. haele Jan 2012 #72

I occasionally use Jebus Warpy Jan 2012 #75

My understanding is it's very common progressive slang referencing religious right Rethugs. riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #77

I wonder why no one uses it to mock President Obama with... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #78

Because we atheists know what rendering unto Caesar means. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #89

I do this frequently. bvar22 Jan 2012 #80

Yes. tabasco Jan 2012 #84

Concur. madamesilverspurs Jan 2012 #85

Agree Broderick Jan 2012 #87

I dunno. Cleita Jan 2012 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #92

Wait, I thought Christians belonged to Jesus, not the other way around? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #213

Feel free to call any god what you wish to hyphenate Jan 2012 #93

why are there 2 of these post from 2 different posters but with the exact wording - see link leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #94

The second poster copied and pasted? dems_rightnow Jan 2012 #96

Yep Broderick Jan 2012 #97

duh. or i guess i should say D'oh- i shoulda figured that out on my own leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #101

GD posts can go by fast xmas74 Jan 2012 #135

Skinner has 27 sock puttets, which can get confusing for just about anyone. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #103

How do you know this? tawadi Jan 2012 #105

That was a joke. Sorry for the confusion; I thought the large number made it obvious. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #109

Oh tawadi Jan 2012 #111

I fall for similar shit all the time. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #117

He must be one of 'em. Critters2 Jan 2012 #224

I know someone who has more. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #128

Unlike some religions, people don't tend to get blown up Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #95

Go take a walk around Belfast and tell me that with a straight face. (NT) Heywood J Jan 2012 #170

So the Irish troubles were about killing people in the name of Christianity, Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #179

Most use terms like jeebus & jeezus to try not to be antagonistic... countryjake Jan 2012 #100

I refrained from posting this. Yet, I am so glad you did....nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #155

Now you've done it tawadi Jan 2012 #104

You got some butter for that? GoneOffShore Jan 2012 #108

Is Jesus male? Can you see him? xfundy Jan 2012 #110

If he's offended, he can speak up. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #112

+1 cleanhippie Jan 2012 #214

To put things in perspective....... MzShellG Jan 2012 #113

agree Broderick Jan 2012 #114

Thank you. emilyg Jan 2012 #123

to Jewish folks his Hebrew name was Yeshua. translated to to English it is Joshua. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #127

"Why do Christians always have to be victims?" Read what Nietzsche had to say about it. harmonicon Jan 2012 #171

Not the same at all Logical Jan 2012 #147

"Can," of course. RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #115

I mostly do it to distinguish between LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #116

"Jeebus" is from an old "Simpsons" episode obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #121

When you insult the Booba, you're only insulting yourself. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #125

Buddha is not a god, he is a human. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2012 #132

Actually, my point was, you're supposed to find the Buddha (or the Buddha-nature) in the mirror. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #151

These days, I prefer Futurama-isms... backscatter712 Jan 2012 #131

The reason I do that is that I really don't like using "Jesus" as a swear word eridani Jan 2012 #134

But its exactly the same thing. undeterred Jan 2012 #139

Avoiding the name is the same as using it? eridani Jan 2012 #152

Its almost more disrespectful on my planet. undeterred Jan 2012 #219

Have you seen the words used to refer to women around here? undeterred Jan 2012 #137

Cheese & crackers, I always interpreted those as euphemisms for "taking the name ... in vain." DirkGently Jan 2012 #140

Holy shit! Kali Jan 2012 #141

"Gee," I think you have a point. DirkGently Jan 2012 #148

I don't think it's disrespectful frazzled Jan 2012 #142

It's a good way for posters to self-identify as Union Scribe Jan 2012 #145

No one is sure Jesus was a real person, so I guess it is ok. Logical Jan 2012 #146

I'm not offended by it ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #149

I will never ever understand the over sensitivity some people have over religion fujiyama Jan 2012 #150

No, it's only reserved to insult Christian Raine Jan 2012 #159

It's a way of cussing without using his name in vain. That's why I do it. Lil Missy Jan 2012 #160

As a Christian 1stlady Jan 2012 #162

Creationism does not equate with Christianity RainDog Jan 2012 #166

And here's the jury decision on hiding your post RainDog Jan 2012 #167

why don't you watch this RainDog Jan 2012 #168

Tell me how evolution has yet to be proven RainDog Jan 2012 #169

I think you need to get yourself a dictionary and learn what "theory" means in science. harmonicon Jan 2012 #172

I doubt this person has the first idea about science RainDog Jan 2012 #180

It is a theory. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #182

Yes, and "theory" in science means something much different than it does in common use. harmonicon Jan 2012 #183

No argument here. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #188

I don't believe in donuts MattBaggins Jan 2012 #194

That's your right, and I respect it. harmonicon Jan 2012 #195

The number 7 brings me to seals Broderick Jan 2012 #196

Most of these not-things are probably cases of lizard/reptilian replacement. harmonicon Jan 2012 #199

LMAO Broderick Jan 2012 #205

If they live in the water they are fish MattBaggins Jan 2012 #204

LMAO Broderick Jan 2012 #207

In science, a theory is more important than a law RainDog Jan 2012 #186

I do not think that is the case Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #189

those were hypotheses that were never proven n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #190

Just because a test on a hypothesis gives a certain result, does not make the theory correct. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #191

I noted what a theory is, above. RainDog Jan 2012 #197

And you admit a theory can be incorrect? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #198

absolutes are the realm of religion RainDog Jan 2012 #200

I'll ask again. You admit a theory can be incorrect? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #201

that's a scientific law RainDog Jan 2012 #202

Yes, it is. And that is the difference. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #203

Leprecauns have also not been disproven Marrah_G Jan 2012 #173

Heh. Yeah. Shadowflash Jan 2012 #185

And yet you use the word 'rethugs'. Hmmm... randome Jan 2012 #187

If you deny evolution MattBaggins Jan 2012 #192

Please link to this post where you were called a "nutcase" and YOUR post got hidden. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #215

here it is RainDog Jan 2012 #218

Thanks. Funny thing is, no one called here a nutjob, not once. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #220

I used the word RainDog Jan 2012 #222

"Evolution is a theory that has yet to be proven and because it is such a far stretch..." cleanhippie Jan 2012 #216

You're not doing Christianity any favors by tying it to Creationist reality denialism. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #221

Does Jesus consist of matter snooper2 Jan 2012 #235

He was just a mortal man. Sky Masterson Jan 2012 #165

"I am not religious in the least. I just find it oddly antagonistic and out of place." Hmmm retread Jan 2012 #174

I use the "bless your little heart" test. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #175

No free pass for evil insanity ... Meeker Morgan Jan 2012 #177

Oh gawd. Iggo Jan 2012 #178

When Islam or Buddhism become the dominant Religious Machine of Oppression in the USA MNBrewer Jan 2012 #181

I prefer sky being. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #193

I use jeez, gee, goddamn, jezus, etc. Neoma Jan 2012 #209

Do you type "G-d" Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #210

'God,' like 'Christ,' is not a name but a title or descriptor. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #228

Yeah, does that deny that there are religions Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #229

Sects of religions, but not religions themselves... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #231

There is certainly a Hebrew/English problem Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #232

The name of God is not 'God.' Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #233

specifically which religion are you referring to... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #243

Jewish religion Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #244

Personally... Prophet 451 Jan 2012 #217

It's supposed to be JESABUS snooper2 Jan 2012 #234

Aw, Geez...I mean Gee Whiz...No, I mean Cripes! MineralMan Jan 2012 #236

How about "Gawd?" FSogol Jan 2012 #240

It was good enough for Duke Ellington, so it's good enough for me. nt NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #241

Blame The Simpsons... Drunken Irishman Jan 2012 #242

dang, didn't work, never mind... Skip Intro Jan 2012 #247

It is permissible to do so; you will offend people if you do. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #248