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Showing Original Post only (View all)Charles Pierce: The Ghoulish Hubris of Letting People Die and Calling That Bravery [View all]
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a42111965/ron-desantis-courage-to-be-free/No paywall
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Presumably, they all sat witness at hospitals and bedsides. Presumably, they all made the arrangements and attended the funerals and laughed over the cold cuts and bulky rolls, and the beer and whiskey afterwards. Presumably, they all still mourn. But did any of them learn anything? Did any of them learn anything that they subsequently put into practice? Who were these people anyway, and what kind of monster did you have to be to lead them on? Who lives through a pandemic and makes war on the cures?
In September, the National Bureau of Economic Research attempted to answer all of these questions. And the answers remain, well, baffling even as Florida Gov. Ronald DeSantis (to name only one example) runs for president on the basis of his highly successful COVID policies, which held the butchers bill in that state to a mere 82,875.
We estimate substantially higher excess death rates for registered Republicans when compared to registered Democrats, with almost all of the difference concentrated in the period after vaccines were widely available in our study states. Overall, the excess death rate for Republicans was 5.4 percentage points (pp), or 76%, higher than the excess death rate for Democrats. Post-vaccines, the excess death rate gap between Republicans and Democrats widened from 1.6 pp (22% of the Democrat excess death rate) to 10.4 pp (153% of the Democrat excess death rate). The gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines became widely available.
Then there was this finding, which was both predictable and utterly bizarre:
Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available.
In other words, within this particular demographic slice of our fellow citizens, after the arrival of the vaccines that protected us from the pandemic, the pandemic got worse, and political affiliation was a contributing factor. Im not sure I ever want to meet anyone whose mind is not blown by this fact. But Im damn sure not voting for a guy whose platform is built on pride in his I was brave enough to do nothing performance in the face of a once-a-century public health emergency.
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Charles Pierce: The Ghoulish Hubris of Letting People Die and Calling That Bravery [View all]
Nevilledog
Nov 2022
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A really good example of how we're not going to be able to fix these bitter divisions. Mind is shut
Evolve Dammit
Dec 2022
#33
and there is evidence that a large number of Dems left Florida during/after Covid
CharleyDog
Nov 2022
#17
Repost Thanx to DUer TigressDem / Death Rate for UNVACCINATED age 50+ is through the roof.
Botany
Nov 2022
#4
They're just accelerating the great demographic shift of Gen Z/Millennials taking over politically.
Sky Jewels
Nov 2022
#9
I heard on NPR the other day that there's a Santa shortage this year.
littlemissmartypants
Dec 2022
#38
Santas died. I imagine bus drivers did too. It's less likely that they are
littlemissmartypants
Dec 2022
#44
Even the vulnerable vaccinated died between development of vaccines and boosters in FL.
Timeflyer
Dec 2022
#31
The official COVID death numbers in FLA are a lie. DeSantis had a range of COVID deaths
Ford_Prefect
Dec 2022
#34
Fantastic! I know that was a lot of work. Have you considered cross posting to the Florida group?
littlemissmartypants
Dec 2022
#40
If you're wondering how many mass shootings it will take to make them reconsider gun control,
paulkienitz
Dec 2022
#41