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30. The propaganda also manipulated a lot of her supporters

Wed Nov 30, 2022, 10:38 PM

Nov 2022

who had bought into a cult of personality to join a little group called PUMA. Remember them?

She lost to Obama and that should have been it in 2008, but personality cultists can be manipulated.

I agree that what happened to her in 2016 was beyond horrible, she had to fight not only the GOP, she had to fight corrupt major media, Cambridge Analytica, targeted voter suppression via Farcebook, and Vladimir Putin, only to be fatally smeared just days before the election by James Fucking Comey.

It's a miracle she won the popular vote.

The popular vote has been overturned by the EC twice in my life and both times it was a godawful mistake. Maybe it's time to start asking our Congressional candidates what they're going to do about that.

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Don't forget John Kerry and swiftboating. ananda Nov 2022 #1

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Nov 2022 #3

That did that to Max Clelland, as well. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #18

They sure did. GaYellowDawg Dec 2022 #81

Plus Ken "Black-Box" Blackwell's shenanigans in Ohio peppertree Nov 2022 #25

How about John Kerry? judesedit Nov 2022 #2

Al Franken PXR-5 Nov 2022 #4

Thank you, Kristen. You thought it would give you a side road to the presidency. 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #12

i will never forgive her. barbtries Dec 2022 #59

Me either. OMGWTF Dec 2022 #91

Indeed! 👍 Duppers Nov 2022 #29

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Abe Lincoln and JFK would be at the top of my list grantcart Nov 2022 #5

James Garfield and William McKinley too ITAL Nov 2022 #16

Both got shot in the back of the head. Hard to top that. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #99

Jimmy Carter, but recently, Hillary Clinton. She was the best, but the Russians gave us trump housecat Nov 2022 #6

Don't forget Comey Pmc1962 Dec 2022 #68

Howard Dean griffi94 Nov 2022 #7

No kidding!!! calimary Nov 2022 #9

Imus was all over the "Dean Scream" which was a total misrepresentation of a passionate moment. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #66

Scarborough did, also, make a huge deal of it Huge! Peregrine Took Dec 2022 #79

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I've never seen a politician destroyed over something so inconsequential and ridiculous. OnionPatch Dec 2022 #76

Cheapest of cheap shots. A real sucker punch when someone was down. n/t Peregrine Took Dec 2022 #80

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It was why Democrats steam-rolled the GOP in 2006. griffi94 Dec 2022 #103

Hillary Clinton was the victim many times BOSSHOG Nov 2022 #8

Obama was denied a judge and a healthcare plan librechik Nov 2022 #10

which one was denied the presidency and which one was not Skittles Nov 2022 #13

the propaganda against Hillary worked on a lot of so-called "progressives" Skittles Nov 2022 #11

It was the ultimate betrayal radical noodle Nov 2022 #15

damn straight Skittles Nov 2022 #17

She would have radical noodle Nov 2022 #20

aw jeez, when I think about that Skittles Nov 2022 #24

Only if you think the Republican Senate would have done her the favor TiberiusB Nov 2022 #40

Scalia's seat was open radical noodle Dec 2022 #47

How? TiberiusB Dec 2022 #48

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I hate doing the "What Ifs" but happybird Nov 2022 #23

What if...Gore (hundreds of thousands of people NOT dead in the ME)... albacore Nov 2022 #32

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Don't forget 9/11 LisaM Dec 2022 #85

The propaganda also manipulated a lot of her supporters Warpy Nov 2022 #30

PUMA's threats never materialized. MrsCoffee Dec 2022 #51

THIS radical noodle Dec 2022 #67

We all do that. murielm99 Dec 2022 #71

I personally know 2 women who changed their registration to R Warpy Dec 2022 #90

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I'm not so sure progressives are to blame here TiberiusB Nov 2022 #38

don't even get me started on Bernie Skittles Nov 2022 #41

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In this queue Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #77

Not the progressives, but the multiple Republican hearings demonizing Hillary halfulglas Dec 2022 #101

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The so-called liberal NYT not only tolerated attacks on both Clintons, but especially Hillary, Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #69

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Don Siegelman Sneederbunk Nov 2022 #19

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Realistic? No. History rarely hands out Halloween candy DFW Dec 2022 #49

I don't understand. Republicans controlled Congress for six of eight years of Clinton and Obama betsuni Dec 2022 #50

No Polybius Dec 2022 #84

Had Carter not been undermined by the politics of treason...... jaxexpat Nov 2022 #28

Agree Alice Kramden Dec 2022 #62

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Totally! cilla4progress Nov 2022 #34

I absolutely agree Dave says Nov 2022 #36

I don't disagree with any on your list, but I would add to the nominees, DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #37

And not to forget Codifer Nov 2022 #39

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I would go with one of the assassinated ones. nt Celerity Dec 2022 #45

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They don't whine about though. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #53

And all filled with grace and dignity. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #54

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i would agree. barbtries Dec 2022 #58

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adding Max Cleland Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #64

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Gabby Giffords and Nancy Pelosi. live love laugh Dec 2022 #74

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