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littlewolf

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31. here is how I see it

Reply to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2022, 11:24 AM

Dec 2022

1. once the threat to himself was over
ie the robber was running away the clerk should
have stayed in the store called 911

1a. had he shot the bad guy in the store different story.

2. the robber can still be charged with armed robbery .

2a if the robber was a convicted felon he can also be
charged with position of a firearm by a convicted felon.

I am not a lawyer nor have a played one on TV
I am also not a LEO however I have been trained
on the use of deadly force as a CCW a C/O (correctional officer)
and a DoD security contractor.

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man robs gas station and kills clerk. DA determines killing is self defense not murder [View all] BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 OP

I don't know what the law is in California, but I would hope this guy could be charged ... Jim__ Dec 2022 #1

The unarmed driver of a vehicle sitting out side of a bank can be charged with Felony Murder mackdaddy Dec 2022 #12

The DA should let a jury decide if it was murder. Cattledog Dec 2022 #2

I think so too. Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #6

The court is the trier of the LAW. Juries are triers of the FACTS. Hortensis Dec 2022 #36

During commission of a crime bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #3

The crime was over DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2022 #5

The emotions weren't over bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #7

How was the crime over if he was running away with the loot? LisaL Dec 2022 #15

He was no longer an imminent threat DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2022 #33

I find it interesting sarisataka Dec 2022 #17

Only cops get away with shooting a fleeing suspect multigraincracker Dec 2022 #4

I doubt the clerk had any training Kaleva Dec 2022 #8

Don't rob people. Also, don't chase people down and shoot at them. fishwax Dec 2022 #9

Yes. Kaleva Dec 2022 #10

The laws pretty clear: he didn't commit murder. The clerk should have stayed at the store ... marble falls Dec 2022 #11

I agree. The clerk screwed up and lost his life Kaleva Dec 2022 #19

It's a crying shame. I hope the authorities go all out on what they can do to convict the dirtbag. marble falls Dec 2022 #39

I think Jackson lost his right to self defense the second he pulled a doc03 Dec 2022 #13

The law says a retreating attacker can't be assaulted. The concept is for two reasons ... marble falls Dec 2022 #40

Shouldn't it be felony murder? LisaL Dec 2022 #14

The crime was already over and the felon was fleeing the scene Kaleva Dec 2022 #18

Crime was not over since robber was fleeing with stolen property. LisaL Dec 2022 #27

Once the robber was fleeing sarisataka Dec 2022 #29

Fleeing with the dosh is not a capital offense. What if the shop owner had missed that guy and ... marble falls Dec 2022 #41

Two wrongs don't make a right sarisataka Dec 2022 #16

Anyone know iof a reputable gun program that teaches one to chase after Kaleva Dec 2022 #20

I have reviewed and attended several sarisataka Dec 2022 #25

+1 Kaleva Dec 2022 #26

This. jeffreyi Dec 2022 #32

Then there was Travon Martin he broke no laws was unarmed. George Zimmerman pursued doc03 Dec 2022 #21

I think this is more like the guy who chased a mugger and killed a gitl Kaleva Dec 2022 #23

My take. SYFROYH Dec 2022 #22

What may be a right isn't always the smartest thing to do Kaleva Dec 2022 #24

Agreed. SYFROYH Dec 2022 #35

The clerk tried to shoot the robber for absconding with money. That is clearly wrong. Chainfire Dec 2022 #28

+1 Kaleva Dec 2022 #30

here is how I see it littlewolf Dec 2022 #31

If one is going to have a gun for defense, get the training and practise the training Kaleva Dec 2022 #34

The thief acted in self defense of his stolen property. such BS ZonkerHarris Dec 2022 #37

Do you think what the clerk did was the correct thing to do? Kaleva Dec 2022 #38

Wait for the robber to now sue the estate of the gas station employee MichMan Dec 2022 #42