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2. I'm glad that other states are being moved up.

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Sat Dec 3, 2022, 10:12 AM

Dec 2022

The first primaries absolutely do create buzz and momentum.

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The arguments I hear against Iowa and Michigan going first are all flawed... [View all] brooklynite Dec 2022 OP

I'll be glad to see the end of IA and NH going first bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #1

Four of the last five in Iowa ended up being the overall nominee MichMan Dec 2022 #3

Or did IA begin a bandwagon that subsequent states followed? bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #4

What candidates would you have preferred over the ones that won Iowa ? MichMan Dec 2022 #5

We might have won either Gore or Kerry's election with a different candidate. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #7

That is what I think. They will nominate candidates who won't win...and it will get worse. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #16

Iowa first intelpug Dec 2022 #34

Only two candidates who won Iowa ended in the White House: Junior in 2000 and Obama in 2008 question everything Dec 2022 #32

Who should Iowa have selected in 2016 ? MichMan Dec 2022 #35

She was not the "wrong" pick. She was my choice in both 2008 and 2016 question everything Dec 2022 #45

Kerry should not have been the nominee Renew Deal Dec 2022 #41

I'm glad that other states are being moved up. yardwork Dec 2022 #2

Iowa needs to go away. No more caucuses. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #6

Whether Iowa goes first of last, there will be a Caucus... brooklynite Dec 2022 #8

If they have a caucus, then they are out as far as I am concerned. I would rather not count their Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #10

So, you are saying just excise Iowa from the process altogether? Bettie Dec 2022 #37

Also, unless they are first, it really doesn't matter. We have no Democrats in Iowa nationally. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #12

I would add that it will increasingly lead to unelectable candidates if we continue to allow those Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #9

Democrats have won the popular vote every election since 1992 except 2004 Renew Deal Dec 2022 #42

South Carolina is not a great choice pinkstarburst Dec 2022 #11

SC has voted for the Democratic Presidential nominee only twice in the last 60 years, jalan48 Dec 2022 #13

We need candidates who can appeal to AA. We can't win without them. If a candidate can't get Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #15

So, is SC the only state with AA? jalan48 Dec 2022 #17

It is a really good state for it...because most of the Democrats here are minority. Thus, it clearly Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #20

A point to consider is the structure and strength of the Dem party within the state. Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #21

I think it shows the preferences of one of the most conservative states in the country and jalan48 Dec 2022 #23

Joe Biden won. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #26

Why should Nevada and New Hampshire be 2nd and 3rd then? MichMan Dec 2022 #27

I don't see why they should. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #47

Thanks to 82 year old Clyburn. How long do you think he will be able to round the troops? question everything Dec 2022 #33

If that's the standard, we shouldn't change anything. Renew Deal Dec 2022 #43

It is not about a swing state in this case. It is about seeing if a candidate can win minority Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #14

✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #44

It's about the Dem party taking more control of the process. Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #18

That is the wrong question. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #48

IA and NH Determine the Initial Viability of Candidates Indykatie Dec 2022 #19

I'll ask again: name a candidate you like who was "drummed out" due to IA and NH results? brooklynite Dec 2022 #25

Joe Biden Sogo Dec 2022 #39

Nope. Io a in particular with a caucus Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #49

SC is not a representative State either, just for different reasons Tom Rinaldo Dec 2022 #22

Iowa caucuses, built on myth, lose place at head of the line LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #24

How is New Hampshire losing it's early place ? MichMan Dec 2022 #36

I always thought Illinois should be the first state Poiuyt Dec 2022 #28

Be very expensive to run Trenzalore Dec 2022 #30

I wonder if that's why people are opposed to small states being first MichMan Dec 2022 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Dec 2022 #50

The first four primaries should be in small states Trenzalore Dec 2022 #29

Flaws in your arguments question everything Dec 2022 #31

There aren't any good answers to this problem Renew Deal Dec 2022 #40

LOL BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #46