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47. I assume that Pelosi knew what would happen if it were one or two bills

Sat Dec 3, 2022, 10:41 AM

Dec 2022

I assume she knew that there was a very significant chance of a combined bill failing. I agree that it was likely seen as impossible to get 60 votes on just sick leave. It does very clearly show where the problem is.

It seems there are several ways companies handle sick time. I am old enough that when I started at Bell Labs, the AT&T policy was you were paid when you called in sick. Period - no specified number until it became a disability. It had nothing to do with vacation time. We did have some personal days and some floating holidays.

Personally, this makes more sense to me. When you are sick, you stay home, get better and avoid spreading whatever it is. In addition, you have vacation time you can count on and plan for. Putting them in one pot, seems to lead to someone who experienced a serious illness losing out on any vacation time at a point they most need it.

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rail strike averted ? with no sick days [View all] littlewolf Dec 2022 OP

I dunno Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #1

well littlewolf Dec 2022 #3

My husband does...they even join a sick bank, Lars39 Dec 2022 #4

Previous company was PTO. Xolodno Dec 2022 #7

I get 10 sick days. After covid all employers should have to provide paid sick time Buckeyeblue Dec 2022 #10

Here. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #11

We did XanaDUer2 Dec 2022 #20

Construction often doesn't, including union construction jobs. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #22

I had three per year at my last job. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #25

I did uponit7771 Dec 2022 #39

My husband was a freight conductor for a few years--he did have to take PTO Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #53

Teamster here. We have a points system NickB79 Dec 2022 #54

I do Horse with no Name Dec 2022 #61

We got nothing but our vacation and paid holidays. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #64

There's a pesky law involved that essentially demands intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #2

Yup. Thanks for posting, Bum. Imo, at this point we NEED that law. Hortensis Dec 2022 #33

It's a terrible look for the President. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #5

There's a law that requires it BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #29

That is so true...great chart... Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #31

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #37

The law does not require it. former9thward Dec 2022 #43

I assume that Pelosi knew what would happen if it were one or two bills karynnj Dec 2022 #47

The law requires intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #49

It was not required. David__77 Dec 2022 #44

There was no choice. And Biden was right. We need to work on getting it for everyone. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #27

Place the blame with Republicans who voted against adding the amendment. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #8

and Manchin Celerity Dec 2022 #55

I think of Joe as a honorary Republican. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #57

if he did switch, then he super fucks us, as we are back to power sharing on committees Celerity Dec 2022 #59

If rail companies and rail unions can't come to an agreement, there's a process they're required to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #9

what happens they send in the pinkertons ? littlewolf Dec 2022 #12

Then union members will go to jail and unions will be fined and a lot of people will be fine with it WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #13

and the campaign ads write themselves. nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #14

Yep. And I think we're all familiar with how well "this is ACTUALLY the Republicans' fault!" works. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #15

Ding Ding Ding ... thread winner ... nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #16

It is the GOP's fault. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #28

Biden named the PEB that crafted this deal. He touted the TA despite knowing that it was only that, WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #34

It's a treasured, joyous pastime for some here. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #48

Since the House and the Senate passed drastically differnt bills, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #17

from what I understand ... A bill has been signed so .... littlewolf Dec 2022 #18

No, the legislative part is over. There weren't different bills. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #19

Every job I've worked has had sick days Bettie Dec 2022 #21

When I was a teacher, we did not take sick days...I think we had three. I know of several Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #30

bullshit jcgoldie Dec 2022 #38

First of all, we did not. This is some years ago. I taught last in Georgia who didn't even have Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #50

I'm not blaming democrats jcgoldie Dec 2022 #60

Maybe in your state Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #51

I'm a professional and I didn't get paid sick days at my former firm. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #36

Doesn't that also make people more likely to Bettie Dec 2022 #40

You were fortunate. Such benefits are few and far between these days. GM sent us Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #58

Not from what I've seen. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #62

The strike isn't averted, it's just delayed Javaman Dec 2022 #23

No, that is not correct.N/T lapucelle Dec 2022 #24

I worked in healthcare Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #26

I worked in a state-run nursing home in New Mexico for several years. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #32

Eight of the 12 unions ratified this deal. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #35

I was thinking about the few Republicans who voted for the sick leave Bettie Dec 2022 #41

Unions don't vote. Union members vote. mn9driver Dec 2022 #45

Cite your source. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #63

Sick days are not a given in this country. honest.abe Dec 2022 #42

Complicated... JT45242 Dec 2022 #46

I'm still trying to figure one thing out ripcord Dec 2022 #52

Postal Workers Union weighs in AntivaxHunters Dec 2022 #56