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BumRushDaShow

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49. The law requires intervention
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 11:23 AM
Dec 2022

when it is explicitly declared (as it was here) that a job action will -

“substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country of essential transportation service.”


Per this - 45 USC Ch. 8: RAILWAY LABOR

§160. Emergency board

If a dispute between a carrier and its employees be not adjusted under the foregoing provisions of this chapter and should, in the judgment of the Mediation Board, threaten substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country of essential transportation service, the Mediation Board shall notify the President, who may thereupon, in his discretion, create a board to investigate and report respecting such dispute. Such board shall be composed of such number of persons as to the President may seem desirable: Provided, however, That no member appointed shall be pecuniarily or otherwise interested in any organization of employees or any carrier. The compensation of the members of any such board shall be fixed by the President. Such board shall be created separately in each instance and it shall investigate promptly the facts as to the dispute and make a report thereon to the President within thirty days from the date of its creation.

There is authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary for the expenses of such board, including the compensation and the necessary traveling expenses and expenses actually incurred for subsistence, of the members of the board. All expenditures of the board shall be allowed and paid on the presentation of itemized vouchers therefor approved by the chairman.

After the creation of such board and for thirty days after such board has made its report to the President, no change, except by agreement, shall be made by the parties to the controversy in the conditions out of which the dispute arose.

(May 20, 1926, ch. 347, §10, 44 Stat. 586; June 21, 1934, ch. 691, §7, 48 Stat. 1197.)


meaning the arbitration by a Presidential Emergency Board as a step prior to the explicit legislation that was done, which is part of the law.

A combined version of the 2 pieces of legislation passed by the House would be guaranteed to be DOA in the Senate had it not arrived as the separate bills.

The sick leave bill was designed to be "a correction" to the main bill once it reached the Senate but was voted on separately as a part of the amendment process, along with another amendment from Dan Sullivan (R-AK) that would have added another 60 day extension to the contracts for further negotiations (and that failed).

That separate bill is this -

H.Con.Res.119 - Providing for a correction in the enrollment of H.J. Res. 100.

and it barely passed the House 221-207, garnering only 3 GOP votes there.

I.e., there is this amnesia about cloture and 60 votes needed for legislation to proceed.

The standalone would have passed in the Senate absent the cloture Rule as it got 52 votes, but with cloture, it needed 8 more GOP votes to reach 60.

So what would have most likely happened once it died in the Senate as a combined bill, would have meant an extra step by the Senate to craft language to remove the provision, vote on that revised version "as a substitute", and then it would have been sent back to the House for another vote before going to the President.

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I dunno Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #1
well littlewolf Dec 2022 #3
My husband does...they even join a sick bank, Lars39 Dec 2022 #4
Previous company was PTO. Xolodno Dec 2022 #7
I get 10 sick days. After covid all employers should have to provide paid sick time Buckeyeblue Dec 2022 #10
Here. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #11
We did XanaDUer2 Dec 2022 #20
Construction often doesn't, including union construction jobs. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #22
I had three per year at my last job. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #25
I did uponit7771 Dec 2022 #39
My husband was a freight conductor for a few years--he did have to take PTO Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #53
Teamster here. We have a points system NickB79 Dec 2022 #54
I do Horse with no Name Dec 2022 #61
We got nothing but our vacation and paid holidays. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #64
There's a pesky law involved that essentially demands intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #2
Yup. Thanks for posting, Bum. Imo, at this point we NEED that law. Hortensis Dec 2022 #33
It's a terrible look for the President. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #5
There's a law that requires it BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #29
That is so true...great chart... Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #31
+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #37
The law does not require it. former9thward Dec 2022 #43
I assume that Pelosi knew what would happen if it were one or two bills karynnj Dec 2022 #47
The law requires intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #49
It was not required. David__77 Dec 2022 #44
There was no choice. And Biden was right. We need to work on getting it for everyone. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #27
Place the blame with Republicans who voted against adding the amendment. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #8
and Manchin Celerity Dec 2022 #55
I think of Joe as a honorary Republican. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #57
if he did switch, then he super fucks us, as we are back to power sharing on committees Celerity Dec 2022 #59
If rail companies and rail unions can't come to an agreement, there's a process they're required to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #9
what happens they send in the pinkertons ? littlewolf Dec 2022 #12
Then union members will go to jail and unions will be fined and a lot of people will be fine with it WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #13
and the campaign ads write themselves. nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #14
Yep. And I think we're all familiar with how well "this is ACTUALLY the Republicans' fault!" works. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #15
Ding Ding Ding ... thread winner ... nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #16
It is the GOP's fault. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #28
Biden named the PEB that crafted this deal. He touted the TA despite knowing that it was only that, WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #34
It's a treasured, joyous pastime for some here. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #48
Since the House and the Senate passed drastically differnt bills, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #17
from what I understand ... A bill has been signed so .... littlewolf Dec 2022 #18
No, the legislative part is over. There weren't different bills. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #19
Every job I've worked has had sick days Bettie Dec 2022 #21
When I was a teacher, we did not take sick days...I think we had three. I know of several Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #30
bullshit jcgoldie Dec 2022 #38
First of all, we did not. This is some years ago. I taught last in Georgia who didn't even have Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #50
I'm not blaming democrats jcgoldie Dec 2022 #60
Maybe in your state Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #51
I'm a professional and I didn't get paid sick days at my former firm. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #36
Doesn't that also make people more likely to Bettie Dec 2022 #40
You were fortunate. Such benefits are few and far between these days. GM sent us Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #58
Not from what I've seen. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #62
The strike isn't averted, it's just delayed Javaman Dec 2022 #23
No, that is not correct.N/T lapucelle Dec 2022 #24
I worked in healthcare Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #26
I worked in a state-run nursing home in New Mexico for several years. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #32
Eight of the 12 unions ratified this deal. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #35
I was thinking about the few Republicans who voted for the sick leave Bettie Dec 2022 #41
Unions don't vote. Union members vote. mn9driver Dec 2022 #45
Cite your source. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #63
Sick days are not a given in this country. honest.abe Dec 2022 #42
Complicated... JT45242 Dec 2022 #46
I'm still trying to figure one thing out ripcord Dec 2022 #52
Postal Workers Union weighs in AntivaxHunters Dec 2022 #56
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