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In reply to the discussion: The arguments I hear against Iowa and Michigan going first are all flawed... [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(180,298 posts)24. Iowa caucuses, built on myth, lose place at head of the line
I think that the OP meant New Hampshire and not Michigan.
I am glad that New Hampshire and Iowa will lose their place as early contests. Neither state represent the demographics of the party.
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The caucuses and their outsize importance were largely an exercise in myth-making, that candidates could earn a path to the White House by meeting voters in person where they live, and earnest, civic-minded Midwesterners would brave the winter cold to stand sometimes for hours to discuss issues and literally stand for their candidate.
As the caucuses have played out, the flaws have become glaring. First among them: The states Democrats botched the count in 2020, leaving an embarrassing muddle. But there were more. Since 2008, the states political makeup has changed dramatically, from a reliable swing state to solidly Republican. And with the Democratic Party increasingly becoming a party of diversity, Iowas lack of it left the state without much of a rationale for leading the way.
Weve been headed this way for a while, said Joe Trippi, who managed Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardts winning Iowa campaign in 1988, adding 2020 broke the camels back.
The Democratic National Committees rulemaking arm voted Friday to remove Iowa as the leadoff state in the presidential nominating order and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024, a dramatic shakeup championed by President Joe Biden to better reflect the partys deeply diverse electorate.
The caucuses were once a novel effort to expand local participation in national party decision-making, but this vestige of 19th century Midwestern civic engagement has simply been been unable to keep pace with the demands of 21st century national politics.
The times have changed and maybe its time for this nominating process to change, said Emily Parcell, Obamas 2008 Iowa political director.
As the caucuses have played out, the flaws have become glaring. First among them: The states Democrats botched the count in 2020, leaving an embarrassing muddle. But there were more. Since 2008, the states political makeup has changed dramatically, from a reliable swing state to solidly Republican. And with the Democratic Party increasingly becoming a party of diversity, Iowas lack of it left the state without much of a rationale for leading the way.
Weve been headed this way for a while, said Joe Trippi, who managed Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardts winning Iowa campaign in 1988, adding 2020 broke the camels back.
The Democratic National Committees rulemaking arm voted Friday to remove Iowa as the leadoff state in the presidential nominating order and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024, a dramatic shakeup championed by President Joe Biden to better reflect the partys deeply diverse electorate.
The caucuses were once a novel effort to expand local participation in national party decision-making, but this vestige of 19th century Midwestern civic engagement has simply been been unable to keep pace with the demands of 21st century national politics.
The times have changed and maybe its time for this nominating process to change, said Emily Parcell, Obamas 2008 Iowa political director.
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The arguments I hear against Iowa and Michigan going first are all flawed... [View all]
brooklynite
Dec 2022
OP
We might have won either Gore or Kerry's election with a different candidate.
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#7
That is what I think. They will nominate candidates who won't win...and it will get worse.
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#16
Only two candidates who won Iowa ended in the White House: Junior in 2000 and Obama in 2008
question everything
Dec 2022
#32
She was not the "wrong" pick. She was my choice in both 2008 and 2016
question everything
Dec 2022
#45
If they have a caucus, then they are out as far as I am concerned. I would rather not count their
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#10
Also, unless they are first, it really doesn't matter. We have no Democrats in Iowa nationally.
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#12
I would add that it will increasingly lead to unelectable candidates if we continue to allow those
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#9
SC has voted for the Democratic Presidential nominee only twice in the last 60 years,
jalan48
Dec 2022
#13
We need candidates who can appeal to AA. We can't win without them. If a candidate can't get
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#15
It is a really good state for it...because most of the Democrats here are minority. Thus, it clearly
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#20
A point to consider is the structure and strength of the Dem party within the state.
Wingus Dingus
Dec 2022
#21
I think it shows the preferences of one of the most conservative states in the country and
jalan48
Dec 2022
#23
Thanks to 82 year old Clyburn. How long do you think he will be able to round the troops?
question everything
Dec 2022
#33
It is not about a swing state in this case. It is about seeing if a candidate can win minority
Demsrule86
Dec 2022
#14
I'll ask again: name a candidate you like who was "drummed out" due to IA and NH results?
brooklynite
Dec 2022
#25