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W_HAMILTON

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63. Cite your source.

Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:02 PM

Dec 2022

Because the actual numbers that I've seen, I haven't seen that to be the case.

The unions that did ratify the deal, total union membership was around 50% of total union members, but some of the approval votes (which were released) was upwards of 60% (from one of the unions who released the voting data).

Among the other ~50% that did not ratify it, I have not seen votes released, so that means that while a majority (of these non-ratifying unions) did not support the deal, we don't know what the actual percentage breakdown was (at least not from any news I had read, up through a day or so ago).

If you have an actual breakdown of the total union vote across all 12 unions, please share.

EDIT: And, actually, in this case, unions do vote, since even if a majority of all union members voted to ratify, but one of the unions did not, the union agreement would result in all 12 unions going on strike.

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rail strike averted ? with no sick days [View all] littlewolf Dec 2022 OP

I dunno Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #1

well littlewolf Dec 2022 #3

My husband does...they even join a sick bank, Lars39 Dec 2022 #4

Previous company was PTO. Xolodno Dec 2022 #7

I get 10 sick days. After covid all employers should have to provide paid sick time Buckeyeblue Dec 2022 #10

Here. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #11

We did XanaDUer2 Dec 2022 #20

Construction often doesn't, including union construction jobs. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #22

I had three per year at my last job. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #25

I did uponit7771 Dec 2022 #39

My husband was a freight conductor for a few years--he did have to take PTO Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #53

Teamster here. We have a points system NickB79 Dec 2022 #54

I do Horse with no Name Dec 2022 #61

We got nothing but our vacation and paid holidays. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #64

There's a pesky law involved that essentially demands intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #2

Yup. Thanks for posting, Bum. Imo, at this point we NEED that law. Hortensis Dec 2022 #33

It's a terrible look for the President. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #5

There's a law that requires it BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #29

That is so true...great chart... Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #31

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #37

The law does not require it. former9thward Dec 2022 #43

I assume that Pelosi knew what would happen if it were one or two bills karynnj Dec 2022 #47

The law requires intervention BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #49

It was not required. David__77 Dec 2022 #44

There was no choice. And Biden was right. We need to work on getting it for everyone. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #27

Place the blame with Republicans who voted against adding the amendment. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #8

and Manchin Celerity Dec 2022 #55

I think of Joe as a honorary Republican. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #57

if he did switch, then he super fucks us, as we are back to power sharing on committees Celerity Dec 2022 #59

If rail companies and rail unions can't come to an agreement, there's a process they're required to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #9

what happens they send in the pinkertons ? littlewolf Dec 2022 #12

Then union members will go to jail and unions will be fined and a lot of people will be fine with it WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #13

and the campaign ads write themselves. nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #14

Yep. And I think we're all familiar with how well "this is ACTUALLY the Republicans' fault!" works. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #15

Ding Ding Ding ... thread winner ... nt littlewolf Dec 2022 #16

It is the GOP's fault. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #28

Biden named the PEB that crafted this deal. He touted the TA despite knowing that it was only that, WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #34

It's a treasured, joyous pastime for some here. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #48

Since the House and the Senate passed drastically differnt bills, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #17

from what I understand ... A bill has been signed so .... littlewolf Dec 2022 #18

No, the legislative part is over. There weren't different bills. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #19

Every job I've worked has had sick days Bettie Dec 2022 #21

When I was a teacher, we did not take sick days...I think we had three. I know of several Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #30

bullshit jcgoldie Dec 2022 #38

First of all, we did not. This is some years ago. I taught last in Georgia who didn't even have Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #50

I'm not blaming democrats jcgoldie Dec 2022 #60

Maybe in your state Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #51

I'm a professional and I didn't get paid sick days at my former firm. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #36

Doesn't that also make people more likely to Bettie Dec 2022 #40

You were fortunate. Such benefits are few and far between these days. GM sent us Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #58

Not from what I've seen. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #62

The strike isn't averted, it's just delayed Javaman Dec 2022 #23

No, that is not correct.N/T lapucelle Dec 2022 #24

I worked in healthcare Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #26

I worked in a state-run nursing home in New Mexico for several years. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #32

Eight of the 12 unions ratified this deal. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #35

I was thinking about the few Republicans who voted for the sick leave Bettie Dec 2022 #41

Unions don't vote. Union members vote. mn9driver Dec 2022 #45

Cite your source. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #63

Sick days are not a given in this country. honest.abe Dec 2022 #42

Complicated... JT45242 Dec 2022 #46

I'm still trying to figure one thing out ripcord Dec 2022 #52

Postal Workers Union weighs in AntivaxHunters Dec 2022 #56