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Bernardo de La Paz

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43. Latin will do the job, but French and German and Chinese have their own rigor

Tue Dec 6, 2022, 09:46 AM

Dec 2022

I advocate a tripod for the foundation of building minds and teaching people how to think. (Teaching people TO think is harder.)

Mathematics is the science of patterns,
Music is the art of patterns,
and Language is communication by patterns.

A second language of any kind (Latin, French, Arabic, Chinese, Ukrainian, whatever) makes a student discover ways of seeing and thinking about concepts and relationships and connections that are unavailable to people who only have one language.

One of the most striking things about professionals and intelligent citizens is they frequently have musical interests or abilities. They are able to communicate well and organize their advice and advocacies because they usually have a greater acquaintance with language beyond one. Mathematics of course is fundamental with logic and reasoning and analysis and synthesis and modelling.

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Well, it has finally been verified... [View all] PCIntern Dec 2022 OP

I saw most of that FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #1

We've been exporting jobs for years and importing production... brush Dec 2022 #2

You betcha. PCIntern Dec 2022 #3

I had 3 years of Latin in high school, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #4

Same with me nuxvomica Dec 2022 #5

Latin saved me on anatomy and pathology tests PCIntern Dec 2022 #6

So did I. Those 3 years taught me how to study as we had... brush Dec 2022 #10

If anyone has ever been to Texas... dlk Dec 2022 #7

I spent my career in education, and sitting through hearings for the State Board of Education Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #34

There is a critical need for education reform dlk Dec 2022 #62

OMG, I just had a thought, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #8

I'm not quite sure that "Morning Joe" is an authority of the ability of American engineering... NNadir Dec 2022 #9

Good point, however, there is a large segment of our population that is very poorly educated dlk Dec 2022 #11

I believe he was referring to graduates nationally... PCIntern Dec 2022 #12

Speaking of not knowing what we don't know, I would suspect that "Morning Joe" doesn't know... NNadir Dec 2022 #26

On AC, that's true, but one dies quicker in cold climates if heat fails. brush Dec 2022 #16

At wet bulb temperatures of 35C, temperatures which are now appearing all over the world... NNadir Dec 2022 #30

Wait...Phoenix? Bettie Dec 2022 #28

Egad, that's an Abigail_Adams Dec 2022 #53

Two Chem Engrs in my family, who are designing chip plants right now. Pobeka Dec 2022 #54

Schooling for work yankee87 Dec 2022 #13

That was true for me, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #27

USA's Wretched Rich want an ignorant populace. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #14

Furtum. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #36

+1 area51 Dec 2022 #49

Chips are "raw materials" needed for cars, refrigerators, and many items the USA exports Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #15

My reference to a Latin education PCIntern Dec 2022 #19

Latin is not required for rigor in education. It is much more useful for health care professionals Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #24

I respectfully beg to differ: PCIntern Dec 2022 #41

Latin will do the job, but French and German and Chinese have their own rigor Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #43

and everyone thinks of immigrants as lettuce pickers not phd's. mopinko Dec 2022 #17

They were always trying to justify my 4 years of Catholic school Latin arlyellowdog Dec 2022 #18

There was an excellent segment on 1A radio yesterday about the poor training of the US work force erronis Dec 2022 #20

This is the object of charter schools which suck up money from public schools Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #21

The late George Carlin was right on the money with this regarding education nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #22

You are right. North American college kids' GPA's are lower than judesedit Dec 2022 #23

Really good shows on YouTube about the chip industry and how ASML in the Netherlands builds the Pepsidog Dec 2022 #25

I started nursing school at 25. TNNurse Dec 2022 #29

The American education system is ambivalent about educating America's youth. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #31

"no serious attempt"? You just dissed millions of American teachers. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #47

We've been dumbing-down education since the sixties. infullview Dec 2022 #32

When the US exported the VLSI manufacturing plimsoll Dec 2022 #33

Reminds me of the first time I discovered high school grads couldn't do long division. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #38

No, it's a different problem. plimsoll Dec 2022 #45

Agree with every point. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #55

Long division is NOT the problem Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #50

I agree Meowmee Dec 2022 #35

Why don't we teach ethical morality? vlyons Dec 2022 #37

Quick quiz. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #40

I think you'll have to explain your point, at least to me. Others probably get it, I don't. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #51

It is my lameassed attempt to identify knowledge/education. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #57

I signed up to take Latin in High School. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #39

Re your last sentence NJCher Dec 2022 #48

LOL. Great story. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #52

My daughter is a teacher of 5th graders and her main concern is about, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #42

This dumbing down is so sad! Quakerfriend Dec 2022 #44

I took two years of Latin in high school .. then two years of French (1962-66) Bo Zarts Dec 2022 #46

What do people think of elite schools, for instance, Brooklyn Latin School? Jim__ Dec 2022 #56

Education used to be respected, admired, honored, sought after. 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #58

Definitely a dumbed down population will vote reactionary if frightened, but... GreenWave Dec 2022 #59

Sometime, in the 1850's, there was a meeting of oeducators 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #60

I agree that our nation is being dumbed down ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #61

I took two years of Latin in high school. llmart Dec 2022 #63