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Quakerfriend

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44. This dumbing down is so sad!

Tue Dec 6, 2022, 09:50 AM

Dec 2022

I’ve watched it go on - getting worse and worse over the decades.

Learning languages used to start in kindergarten.
The developing brain of a child is made for this!
Now, they tend to start in 7th grade & most kids never become fluent- even after 3-4 yrs.

I can still remember the French songs I learned in kindergarten but, relatively little of the Spanish I took for 4 years in high school.

Latin is being phased out in many schools.
My boys took it to improve their SAT scores.

Coming from a family of engineers going back over 4 generations & I can really see the steep decline in this area with many colleges now offering a ‘general’ degree in
Engineering- What a waste!

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Well, it has finally been verified... [View all] PCIntern Dec 2022 OP

I saw most of that FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #1

We've been exporting jobs for years and importing production... brush Dec 2022 #2

You betcha. PCIntern Dec 2022 #3

I had 3 years of Latin in high school, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #4

Same with me nuxvomica Dec 2022 #5

Latin saved me on anatomy and pathology tests PCIntern Dec 2022 #6

So did I. Those 3 years taught me how to study as we had... brush Dec 2022 #10

If anyone has ever been to Texas... dlk Dec 2022 #7

I spent my career in education, and sitting through hearings for the State Board of Education Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #34

There is a critical need for education reform dlk Dec 2022 #62

OMG, I just had a thought, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #8

I'm not quite sure that "Morning Joe" is an authority of the ability of American engineering... NNadir Dec 2022 #9

Good point, however, there is a large segment of our population that is very poorly educated dlk Dec 2022 #11

I believe he was referring to graduates nationally... PCIntern Dec 2022 #12

Speaking of not knowing what we don't know, I would suspect that "Morning Joe" doesn't know... NNadir Dec 2022 #26

On AC, that's true, but one dies quicker in cold climates if heat fails. brush Dec 2022 #16

At wet bulb temperatures of 35C, temperatures which are now appearing all over the world... NNadir Dec 2022 #30

Wait...Phoenix? Bettie Dec 2022 #28

Egad, that's an Abigail_Adams Dec 2022 #53

Two Chem Engrs in my family, who are designing chip plants right now. Pobeka Dec 2022 #54

Schooling for work yankee87 Dec 2022 #13

That was true for me, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #27

USA's Wretched Rich want an ignorant populace. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #14

Furtum. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #36

+1 area51 Dec 2022 #49

Chips are "raw materials" needed for cars, refrigerators, and many items the USA exports Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #15

My reference to a Latin education PCIntern Dec 2022 #19

Latin is not required for rigor in education. It is much more useful for health care professionals Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #24

I respectfully beg to differ: PCIntern Dec 2022 #41

Latin will do the job, but French and German and Chinese have their own rigor Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #43

and everyone thinks of immigrants as lettuce pickers not phd's. mopinko Dec 2022 #17

They were always trying to justify my 4 years of Catholic school Latin arlyellowdog Dec 2022 #18

There was an excellent segment on 1A radio yesterday about the poor training of the US work force erronis Dec 2022 #20

This is the object of charter schools which suck up money from public schools Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #21

The late George Carlin was right on the money with this regarding education nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #22

You are right. North American college kids' GPA's are lower than judesedit Dec 2022 #23

Really good shows on YouTube about the chip industry and how ASML in the Netherlands builds the Pepsidog Dec 2022 #25

I started nursing school at 25. TNNurse Dec 2022 #29

The American education system is ambivalent about educating America's youth. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #31

"no serious attempt"? You just dissed millions of American teachers. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #47

We've been dumbing-down education since the sixties. infullview Dec 2022 #32

When the US exported the VLSI manufacturing plimsoll Dec 2022 #33

Reminds me of the first time I discovered high school grads couldn't do long division. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #38

No, it's a different problem. plimsoll Dec 2022 #45

Agree with every point. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #55

Long division is NOT the problem Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #50

I agree Meowmee Dec 2022 #35

Why don't we teach ethical morality? vlyons Dec 2022 #37

Quick quiz. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #40

I think you'll have to explain your point, at least to me. Others probably get it, I don't. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #51

It is my lameassed attempt to identify knowledge/education. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #57

I signed up to take Latin in High School. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #39

Re your last sentence NJCher Dec 2022 #48

LOL. Great story. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #52

My daughter is a teacher of 5th graders and her main concern is about, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #42

This dumbing down is so sad! Quakerfriend Dec 2022 #44

I took two years of Latin in high school .. then two years of French (1962-66) Bo Zarts Dec 2022 #46

What do people think of elite schools, for instance, Brooklyn Latin School? Jim__ Dec 2022 #56

Education used to be respected, admired, honored, sought after. 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #58

Definitely a dumbed down population will vote reactionary if frightened, but... GreenWave Dec 2022 #59

Sometime, in the 1850's, there was a meeting of oeducators 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #60

I agree that our nation is being dumbed down ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #61

I took two years of Latin in high school. llmart Dec 2022 #63