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NutmegYankee

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65. The restaurant made it clear the groups political activities were the reason

Tue Dec 6, 2022, 09:08 PM

Dec 2022

That's going to destroy an argument that it was because of religion. Given that political activity isn't protected, it's a tough stretch to make a ruling in their favor. And honestly, given the clear discrimination that thousand of right-wing establishments use against Democrats (refusing to serve them, etc.) a ruling that political activity is protected would actually benefit us.

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Restaurant refuses service to Christian group, citing staff 'dignity' [View all] tenderfoot Dec 2022 OP

isn't this what they want to SCOTUS to put a rubber stamp on? only serving people one agrees with BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #1

Exactly! Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #28

Yeah, but it's not supposed to hurt THEM! kwijybo Dec 2022 #61

It Strikes Me RobinA Dec 2022 #90

The RW doesn't like it when they're treated to a taste of their own discriminating behavior. sinkingfeeling Dec 2022 #2

Quite right. Good for them. Glorfindel Dec 2022 #3

Was sauce for the goose part of that planned meal? bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #4

yes mr spock. AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #55

Wonderful. SergeStorms Dec 2022 #5

Very similar to the Colorado news story... WarGamer Dec 2022 #6

That depends on whether SCOTUS says a web designer can refuse Ocelot II Dec 2022 #11

And the flip side... WarGamer Dec 2022 #13

I've never heard of a gay couple wanting "Our Gay Wedding" written on their cake. bluesbassman Dec 2022 #25

Oh really? 😉 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #47

Not really FBaggins Dec 2022 #40

Depends on if this is religion or poltiical position. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #17

That would end up in the Courts. WarGamer Dec 2022 #18

Often has and typically the business wins on poltical positions. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #23

I think arguing politics vs Religion might be tough... depending on the Court. WarGamer Dec 2022 #53

The restaurant made it clear the groups political activities were the reason. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #66

political opinions based on religious dogma... WarGamer Dec 2022 #67

Sorta like opinions & actions based on a corporation's "religious dogma"? NullTuples Dec 2022 #81

Like I've said like 7 times in this thread... WarGamer Dec 2022 #103

Like previous case law matters to Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch and Coney-Barrett Generic Brad Dec 2022 #58

The restaurant made it clear the groups political activities were the reason NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #65

The staff feels threatened due to their inherent traits. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #85

Although, both sides could argue the same point. TigressDem Dec 2022 #34

False equivalency lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #84

OP is about a venue not wanting to serve bigots for safety reasons. I replied to post about lawsuit. TigressDem Dec 2022 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author geardaddy Dec 2022 #64

How does religion even enter into this? old as dirt Dec 2022 #101

Too bad. underpants Dec 2022 #7

I hope some Richmond locals will support this restaurant in the coming "cancel culture" backlash flying_wahini Dec 2022 #8

Our choice to be bigots "canceled" lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #86

This "religious freedom" thing can go both ways, it would seem. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #9

Of course... WarGamer Dec 2022 #10

I'll bet the wait staff has "sincerely held beliefs" ..... RussBLib Dec 2022 #15

I think the restaurant should have served them. Use these dishes: Ilsa Dec 2022 #12

The way I see it utopian Dec 2022 #14

What did Christ say about abortion or gays again? panader0 Dec 2022 #60

He said that all those laws in the old book Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #105

Inherent traits of one group lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #87

Agador, Armand, and Albert could serve them. Ilsa Dec 2022 #16

Good. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. JanMichael Dec 2022 #19

No obligation to cater a meal for people to plot your demise gratuitous Dec 2022 #20

What do we really want? Prendy Dec 2022 #21

The former by far Random Boomer Dec 2022 #73

"Choice" is the issue at the center of this. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #88

They should serve them with Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #22

That's what I was thinking. Go ahead and wnylib Dec 2022 #33

That is what I would have done. Eko Dec 2022 #59

That would take some preparation jmowreader Dec 2022 #83

Hope they like apples... Girard442 Dec 2022 #24

cancel their event with only 90 minutes notice? hmm financial harm suit coming soon nt msongs Dec 2022 #26

That's what I was thinking. forgotmylogin Dec 2022 #54

I went to The Family Foundation website. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #27

LMAO!! TurboDem Dec 2022 #30

Funny enough, I came to the same conclusion. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #38

Yes I would consider a donation. In their name to a LGBTQ charity. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #43

Ooh, nice idea! 😁 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #49

I get one sometimes! LakeArenal Dec 2022 #50

Fuck their hate and bigotry, er, work if that's what you want to call it. Initech Dec 2022 #42

So did I lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #89

I suspect the real reason was that nobody on staff wanted to be their servers Warpy Dec 2022 #29

That is what I had thought when I read the thread title. Collimator Dec 2022 #32

Often tipping church tracts that falsely look like money. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #35

OMFG. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #52

pic Celerity Dec 2022 #76

I can tell you from personal experience that is true Unwind Your Mind Dec 2022 #37

That was my first thought as well. Those church folks come into a japple Dec 2022 #41

Groups usually require +18% IbogaProject Dec 2022 #78

Yes Timewas Dec 2022 #31

I personally don't like this decision. If you're open for business, I think you serve any and all iluvtennis Dec 2022 #36

Who does? But the timing is good, and vanlassie Dec 2022 #70

Yes, I see both sides as I too like the tit for tat. But just don't want to see our society regress. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #71

"Both sides" lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #93

Not from the bigotry standpoint. I abhor bigots. I'm simply saying many lives were lost iluvtennis Dec 2022 #98

How about having to serve an outlaw biker gang that intends on trashing the establishment? tenderfoot Dec 2022 #74

I agree IbogaProject Dec 2022 #79

Refused service because they're bigots encouraging bigotry lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #91

I don't know inthewind21 Dec 2022 #99

Not a "Christian" group so much as a group that forces their idea of religion on everyone else Wild blueberry Dec 2022 #39

I guess I have to differentiate Red Mountain Dec 2022 #44

People dont have to serve I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #45

Hey ChristoFascists BlueIdaho Dec 2022 #46

It's worse than that. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #92

Bravo!! Sibelius Fan Dec 2022 #48

No food for you. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #51

restraunts have the right to refuse service to anyone . period AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #56

sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander republianmushroom Dec 2022 #57

I guess this is a case of "what's good for the goose...." oldsoftie Dec 2022 #62

Well, there's always Chik-fil-A or Crackerbarrel. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #63

If it has 'Faith', 'Fox', 'Freedom' or 'Family' in the title, run the hell away. 634-5789 Dec 2022 #68

Hmmm, lonely bird Dec 2022 #69

This is what we have to do to get the court to play nice and acknowledge the civil rights of Martin68 Dec 2022 #72

I'm against this IbogaProject Dec 2022 #75

One side makes the choice to be bigots encouraging bigotry. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #95

I hope an inclusive christian group plans an event there FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #77

Wapo's headline is a bit misleading.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2022 #80

Vs LGBTQ who didn't make a choice. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #94

Agreed. Happy Hoosier Dec 2022 #97

Lol. Be careful what you ask for. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #82

The restaurant management did the right thing wendyb-NC Dec 2022 #100

The SC is deciding if people "choose" to be gay or Muslim. JohnnyRingo Dec 2022 #102

Depends on the facility doesn't it? And the groups behavior dembotoz Dec 2022 #104

They will probably lose NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #106