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NowISeetheLight

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106. They will probably lose

Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:16 PM

Dec 2022

A lawsuit based on “religious discrimination”. A better way to get away with this is to claim you have a sincerely held religious belief that all people must be created equally. That discriminating against anyone and treating them differently is against your religion. You could claim that by facilitating an event for these “sinners” you’d be forced to act against your beliefs.

You could even throw some Bible references into the mix. That your interpretation of the Bible is what your going by.

Some examples:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/treating_everyone_equally

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Restaurant refuses service to Christian group, citing staff 'dignity' [View all] tenderfoot Dec 2022 OP

isn't this what they want to SCOTUS to put a rubber stamp on? only serving people one agrees with BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #1

Exactly! Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #28

Yeah, but it's not supposed to hurt THEM! kwijybo Dec 2022 #61

It Strikes Me RobinA Dec 2022 #90

The RW doesn't like it when they're treated to a taste of their own discriminating behavior. sinkingfeeling Dec 2022 #2

Quite right. Good for them. Glorfindel Dec 2022 #3

Was sauce for the goose part of that planned meal? bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #4

yes mr spock. AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #55

Wonderful. SergeStorms Dec 2022 #5

Very similar to the Colorado news story... WarGamer Dec 2022 #6

That depends on whether SCOTUS says a web designer can refuse Ocelot II Dec 2022 #11

And the flip side... WarGamer Dec 2022 #13

I've never heard of a gay couple wanting "Our Gay Wedding" written on their cake. bluesbassman Dec 2022 #25

Oh really? 😉 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #47

Not really FBaggins Dec 2022 #40

Depends on if this is religion or poltiical position. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #17

That would end up in the Courts. WarGamer Dec 2022 #18

Often has and typically the business wins on poltical positions. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #23

I think arguing politics vs Religion might be tough... depending on the Court. WarGamer Dec 2022 #53

The restaurant made it clear the groups political activities were the reason. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #66

political opinions based on religious dogma... WarGamer Dec 2022 #67

Sorta like opinions & actions based on a corporation's "religious dogma"? NullTuples Dec 2022 #81

Like I've said like 7 times in this thread... WarGamer Dec 2022 #103

Like previous case law matters to Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch and Coney-Barrett Generic Brad Dec 2022 #58

The restaurant made it clear the groups political activities were the reason NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #65

The staff feels threatened due to their inherent traits. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #85

Although, both sides could argue the same point. TigressDem Dec 2022 #34

False equivalency lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #84

OP is about a venue not wanting to serve bigots for safety reasons. I replied to post about lawsuit. TigressDem Dec 2022 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author geardaddy Dec 2022 #64

How does religion even enter into this? old as dirt Dec 2022 #101

Too bad. underpants Dec 2022 #7

I hope some Richmond locals will support this restaurant in the coming "cancel culture" backlash flying_wahini Dec 2022 #8

Our choice to be bigots "canceled" lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #86

This "religious freedom" thing can go both ways, it would seem. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #9

Of course... WarGamer Dec 2022 #10

I'll bet the wait staff has "sincerely held beliefs" ..... RussBLib Dec 2022 #15

I think the restaurant should have served them. Use these dishes: Ilsa Dec 2022 #12

The way I see it utopian Dec 2022 #14

What did Christ say about abortion or gays again? panader0 Dec 2022 #60

He said that all those laws in the old book Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #105

Inherent traits of one group lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #87

Agador, Armand, and Albert could serve them. Ilsa Dec 2022 #16

Good. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. JanMichael Dec 2022 #19

No obligation to cater a meal for people to plot your demise gratuitous Dec 2022 #20

What do we really want? Prendy Dec 2022 #21

The former by far Random Boomer Dec 2022 #73

"Choice" is the issue at the center of this. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #88

They should serve them with Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #22

That's what I was thinking. Go ahead and wnylib Dec 2022 #33

That is what I would have done. Eko Dec 2022 #59

That would take some preparation jmowreader Dec 2022 #83

Hope they like apples... Girard442 Dec 2022 #24

cancel their event with only 90 minutes notice? hmm financial harm suit coming soon nt msongs Dec 2022 #26

That's what I was thinking. forgotmylogin Dec 2022 #54

I went to The Family Foundation website. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #27

LMAO!! TurboDem Dec 2022 #30

Funny enough, I came to the same conclusion. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #38

Yes I would consider a donation. In their name to a LGBTQ charity. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #43

Ooh, nice idea! 😁 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #49

I get one sometimes! LakeArenal Dec 2022 #50

Fuck their hate and bigotry, er, work if that's what you want to call it. Initech Dec 2022 #42

So did I lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #89

I suspect the real reason was that nobody on staff wanted to be their servers Warpy Dec 2022 #29

That is what I had thought when I read the thread title. Collimator Dec 2022 #32

Often tipping church tracts that falsely look like money. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #35

OMFG. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #52

pic Celerity Dec 2022 #76

I can tell you from personal experience that is true Unwind Your Mind Dec 2022 #37

That was my first thought as well. Those church folks come into a japple Dec 2022 #41

Groups usually require +18% IbogaProject Dec 2022 #78

Yes Timewas Dec 2022 #31

I personally don't like this decision. If you're open for business, I think you serve any and all iluvtennis Dec 2022 #36

Who does? But the timing is good, and vanlassie Dec 2022 #70

Yes, I see both sides as I too like the tit for tat. But just don't want to see our society regress. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #71

"Both sides" lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #93

Not from the bigotry standpoint. I abhor bigots. I'm simply saying many lives were lost iluvtennis Dec 2022 #98

How about having to serve an outlaw biker gang that intends on trashing the establishment? tenderfoot Dec 2022 #74

I agree IbogaProject Dec 2022 #79

Refused service because they're bigots encouraging bigotry lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #91

I don't know inthewind21 Dec 2022 #99

Not a "Christian" group so much as a group that forces their idea of religion on everyone else Wild blueberry Dec 2022 #39

I guess I have to differentiate Red Mountain Dec 2022 #44

People dont have to serve I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #45

Hey ChristoFascists BlueIdaho Dec 2022 #46

It's worse than that. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #92

Bravo!! Sibelius Fan Dec 2022 #48

No food for you. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #51

restraunts have the right to refuse service to anyone . period AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #56

sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander republianmushroom Dec 2022 #57

I guess this is a case of "what's good for the goose...." oldsoftie Dec 2022 #62

Well, there's always Chik-fil-A or Crackerbarrel. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #63

If it has 'Faith', 'Fox', 'Freedom' or 'Family' in the title, run the hell away. 634-5789 Dec 2022 #68

Hmmm, lonely bird Dec 2022 #69

This is what we have to do to get the court to play nice and acknowledge the civil rights of Martin68 Dec 2022 #72

I'm against this IbogaProject Dec 2022 #75

One side makes the choice to be bigots encouraging bigotry. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #95

I hope an inclusive christian group plans an event there FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #77

Wapo's headline is a bit misleading.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2022 #80

Vs LGBTQ who didn't make a choice. lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #94

Agreed. Happy Hoosier Dec 2022 #97

Lol. Be careful what you ask for. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #82

The restaurant management did the right thing wendyb-NC Dec 2022 #100

The SC is deciding if people "choose" to be gay or Muslim. JohnnyRingo Dec 2022 #102

Depends on the facility doesn't it? And the groups behavior dembotoz Dec 2022 #104

They will probably lose NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #106