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In reply to the discussion: North vs South [View all]Celerity
(54,450 posts)33. NC and GA going perma blue would be a game changer for POTUS
as long as we hold MI (or PA instead of MI) and VA (or, of course, as VA is the smallest of the 3 EV-wise, win MI and PA and lose VA) (I am perma bluing CO and MN for this exercise and in reality)
we can lose ALL of following states and still win
FL
TX
AZ
NV (or NH, not both unless we both ME-2 and NE-2, see below)
WI
PA (or lose MI IF we win PA, and then we could even lose BOTH NV and NH and still win)
OH
MO
IA
IN
KS
ME-2nd District
NE-2nd District

or (win PA, lose MI and lose BOTH NV and NH, plus still lose ME-2 and NE-2)

and finally, IF we win both NE-2 and ME-2 (ME-2 is the harder atm), we can also lose BOTH NH and NV and still win, even winning MI and losing PA) This scenario would make Nebraska FREAK out, as the Rethugs have been trying for years to stop the split vote, coming within only 1 vote once. IF NE stops splitting Maine HAS to do so too, or it may fuck us in some scenarios.

we can lose ALL of following states and still win
FL
TX
AZ
NV (or NH, not both unless we both ME-2 and NE-2, see below)
WI
PA (or lose MI IF we win PA, and then we could even lose BOTH NV and NH and still win)
OH
MO
IA
IN
KS
ME-2nd District
NE-2nd District

or (win PA, lose MI and lose BOTH NV and NH, plus still lose ME-2 and NE-2)

and finally, IF we win both NE-2 and ME-2 (ME-2 is the harder atm), we can also lose BOTH NH and NV and still win, even winning MI and losing PA) This scenario would make Nebraska FREAK out, as the Rethugs have been trying for years to stop the split vote, coming within only 1 vote once. IF NE stops splitting Maine HAS to do so too, or it may fuck us in some scenarios.

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lastly, IF we also perma blue AZ and NV, (and hold VA) we can lose BOTH PA AND MI as well
Celerity
Dec 2022
#34
That's really cool and quite frankly, I think the last map is the most likely.
jimfields33
Dec 2022
#35
unfortunately, there is a decent shot we lose the Senate in 2024, the map is horrid for us
Celerity
Dec 2022
#37
The poster I replied to said they walk out of places if they see open carry.
former9thward
Dec 2022
#41
"Evil City" vs. "Virtuous Countryside" has been a thing since Jefferson was president . . .
hatrack
Dec 2022
#16
Some of 'em, ya gotta feel sorry. Like the idiot who rescued thekids in the basement of Comet Pizza.
3Hotdogs
Dec 2022
#8
As a kid born in NJ in early 60's I would often tease my grandmother who was born in SC and moved to
Pepsidog
Dec 2022
#10
That's funny. The South has so romanticized their past that it has blinded them to the truth. I'm
Pepsidog
Dec 2022
#23
Different culture for sure. It's a shame they keep electing the same people who do nothing for them
Pepsidog
Dec 2022
#25
I feel bad for them, too, considering that people who scoff at Covid and refuse the vaccine are so
LaMouffette
Dec 2022
#20