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30. I didn't see where he thought Russia maintaining hold over Ukraine was a desirable option

Sat Dec 17, 2022, 08:55 PM

Dec 2022

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Rather he argues that Russia should not be made devastated by the results of a peace process, citing the example of the end of WWI, which gave rise to Nazi Germany. He fears what a power vacuum in Russia would yield because of their nuclear arsenal.

He did say he supported US intervention in Ukraine, but thought it was time for a peace process. I agree that seems unlikely to yield reasonable results given Russian's duplicitousness.

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Kissinger weeps for Pooty Poot [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP

THe Consequences To The Entire World Could Be Peace Me. Dec 2022 #1

Sounds like Kissinger supports the empowerment of the current libertarian oligarchs and oil-agarchs. ShazamIam Dec 2022 #2

I don't support a damn thing Kissinger said. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #5

I didn't think he was still alive, what is he, 120? Meadowoak Dec 2022 #7

I believe he's 100 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #8

He's 99. He'll be 100 in May. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #13

Evil Lives. sarcasmo Dec 2022 #14

At least you didn't have to delete my post like on that other thread. /lol ShazamIam Dec 2022 #16

He always loves him some Capitalist Autocrats. haele Dec 2022 #22

The ultimate sin of Communisim? Mopar151 Dec 2022 #54

Yo, Hank: Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #3

LOL Blue Owl Dec 2022 #4

"German-born political consultant" - pretty much his legacy in a nutshell . . . hatrack Dec 2022 #6

I begin to think that evil SOB will never fucking die. Autumn Dec 2022 #9

The Spectator magazine is, indeed, MAGA. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2022 #10

What a load of crap. I remember years ago when Kissinger said Walleye Dec 2022 #11

Wasn't he right? Renew Deal Dec 2022 #24

Yep I can hear him saying it, and I thought about it immediately when Putin invaded Ukraine Walleye Dec 2022 #25

The Cambodia killer weeps for Putin. 3,875 bombings in Cambodia. sarcasmo Dec 2022 #12

My brain hurts.... LeftInTX Dec 2022 #15

kissinger has always kissed up to dictators and fascists instead of Democracies samsingh Dec 2022 #17

I don't think most of you read the article iemanja Dec 2022 #20

For some of us it is memory, not free association. wnylib Dec 2022 #26

Your post is far more thoughtful than the one I responded to iemanja Dec 2022 #33

I read the MSN/Newsweek article, and the post above seems accurate about Kissinger's take muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #29

It's not an issue of morality iemanja Dec 2022 #31

Well, no, he called for the border to be that before Feb 24th, ie the Donbas as well as Crimea muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #43

"A peace process should link Ukraine to Nato, however expressed." Sympthsical Dec 2022 #36

Putin would find Ukraine membership in Nato unacceptable iemanja Dec 2022 #37

I agree with your view of the situation Sympthsical Dec 2022 #44

You hadn't posted when I made the comment iemanja Dec 2022 #55

I lived when he was in power. I don't have to read an article about him. He has lived too long. Autumn Dec 2022 #53

God, I cannot stand ellie Dec 2022 #18

He's not weeping for Putin iemanja Dec 2022 #19

I read Kissinger's original article. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #28

I didn't see where he thought Russia maintaining hold over Ukraine was a desirable option iemanja Dec 2022 #30

Whether "desirable" or not desirable, under Kissinger's "plan" Russia would control Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #48

Not "full stop" iemanja Dec 2022 #49

Not correct. Kissinger said the pre-invasion boundaries would hold. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #51

Hardly the entirety of Ukraine iemanja Dec 2022 #56

Dead wrong, yet again. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #57

Not true. That is your invention. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #60

Direct quote iemanja Dec 2022 #58

No, the words I choose are entirely clear and entirely accurate. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Dec 2022 #21

I don't think he's crazy Renew Deal Dec 2022 #23

I'm throwing up. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #27

The 10 most ghoulish quotes of Henry Kissinger's gruesome career BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #32

Frankly, that sounds right. Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 #45

I think Kissinger will outlive Keith Richards Captain Zero Dec 2022 #34

I suggest everyone read it before condemning. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #35

No, it is a contemptable plan that would leave Russia in control of Ukrainian territory Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #39

that's legitimate. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #46

Putin only understands "sticks." Unfortunately. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #47

i don't think there are enough sticks to make him understand. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #62

I entirely disagree. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #64

hope you're right. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #65

Putin should have thought of that before waging war on a neighbor Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #66

He knows a lot about history and geopolitics leftstreet Dec 2022 #38

He's not right now and he has rarely been "right" in his entire career. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #40

He worked for bloodthirsty imperialists, not us n/t leftstreet Dec 2022 #41

Tom Lehrer: "Political satire became obsolete when kissinger was awarded niyad Dec 2022 #42

right? iemanja Dec 2022 #50

Fuck that bastard. He's lived over a hundred years too long. Autumn Dec 2022 #52

piss on that guy anyway KG Dec 2022 #61

"Fuck that guy" r�is�n_dubh Dec 2022 #63