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Torchlight

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20. More specifically, examples of Menippean satire

Tue Dec 20, 2022, 01:56 PM

Dec 2022

in that as we laugh at characters, we're laughing at their reactions to an absurd world; and thus laughing at our own reactions to the follies, abuses, and shortcomings of our own culture and in doing so, holding them in front of a mirror.

The Golden Ass, Punch (the weekly), Some Words with a Mummy by Poe, and Huckleberry Finn by Clemens are among the primers of this style of social criticism.

Great examples of comedy (as among those listed in the original post) do us a greater service than we may often realize in the immediacy.

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Before the GOP/Right decided that drag was evil [View all] RAB910 Dec 2022 OP

Children everywhere watched Mary Martin play Peter Pan Walleye Dec 2022 #1

and Sandy Duncan RAB910 Dec 2022 #2

Right that was after my time, I forgot Walleye Dec 2022 #3

In Peter Pan a woman was playing a boy, but that was OK. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #5

That is an interesting and accurate analysis Walleye Dec 2022 #8

Great perspective. Thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #10

So much THIS. TygrBright Dec 2022 #17

Thanks for sharing this!!! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2022 #37

Republicans that their fellow republicans would trust their children with. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #4

The GOP Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, pled guilty to multiple counts of child molestation. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #9

Great information! Permanut Dec 2022 #38

I'd post the infamous YouTube clip of Giuilani in drag being groped by Trump, Emrys Dec 2022 #6

Go for it. rubbersole Dec 2022 #28

Oh, OK then. Emrys Dec 2022 #31

Just as hypocritical and disgusting as I remember. rubbersole Dec 2022 #36

Those examples are comedy. Absurd characters to laugh at. Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #7

And, if memory serves, none of them are transgender. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2022 #11

Transgender, not transgendered, please. n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #26

Comedy serves a real political purpose in society. No comedic political commentary is just comedy Tommymac Dec 2022 #12

The best comics "punch up" - the worst "punch down". Probatim Dec 2022 #18

+100000 nt Tommymac Dec 2022 #19

Right. It's fine if you're making fun of women, or making fun of men dressing as women... thesquanderer Dec 2022 #15

More specifically, examples of Menippean satire Torchlight Dec 2022 #20

Have thought Rebl2 Dec 2022 #13

Me too PatSeg Dec 2022 #30

People having a good time. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #14

They only think people should work and go to church. Initech Dec 2022 #23

Hershel Walker believes. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #32

And don't forget Diraven Dec 2022 #16

Don't forget all the wonderful "pants" roles in opera vlyons Dec 2022 #21

But Cherubino was a boy sung by a woman. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #42

It is something that isn't easy for people that don't struggle with their gender to understand Trenzalore Dec 2022 #22

Most of these examples are not trans-friendly drag depictions. intheflow Dec 2022 #24

John Davidson Chili Pepper Dec 2022 #25

Caitlyn Jenner is a conservative Republican IronLionZion Dec 2022 #27

Really not representative of trans people despite being one. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #33

She's more representative than the comedians in drag IronLionZion Dec 2022 #34

The place to keep your kids away from and safe... multigraincracker Dec 2022 #29

I doubt Republicans sympathized with the attempted draft-dodging of Klinger. Martin68 Dec 2022 #35

Bone spurs proved more successful. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #39

Or in the case of Dubya, a well-connected father. Martin68 Dec 2022 #41

Mrs. Brown was a guy. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #40

and there is this... DBoon Dec 2022 #43