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PlanetBev

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12. I believe there was a historical Jesus

Fri Dec 23, 2022, 10:55 AM

Dec 2022

But I’m not so sure about all that “Prince of Peace” stuff. He could have been a leader of a big time tax revolt against the Romans. The Romans didn’t give a rip about what religion you practiced, but they were merciless about everything else.

Wish I had heard about the old Lenny Bruce line when I was younger, and accused of killing Christ. He said “Yeah, we killed Jesus…..we killed him because he didn’t want to be a doctor.”

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Ancient 'Jesus midwife' tomb to be excavated by archaeologists Associated Press [View all] magicarpet Dec 2022 OP

Wouldn't there be a dispute of there being a midwife? LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #1

It was a first birth, husband could have been rattled and rushed to seek help. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #2

The story of a midwife is in an apocryphal gospel. And IIRC, the midwife's name isn't Salome; WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #3

The magi must have pushed her out of the Nativity scene. milestogo Dec 2022 #8

Dicks. Iggo Dec 2022 #26

We Three Dicks milestogo Dec 2022 #28

. Iggo Dec 2022 #29

The magi showed up later. Igel Dec 2022 #31

There's literally no reliable evidence that the Bible's Jesus of Nazareth was anything but Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #4

I don't believe what you're saying is historically accurate. Renew Deal Dec 2022 #5

Wikipedia is wrong. Goodheart Dec 2022 #32

KnR SammyWinstonJack Dec 2022 #6

There is a lot about his brother, James the Just, the head leftyladyfrommo Dec 2022 #7

Pretty sure that if one cannot prove there was a Jesus, it logically follows one also Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #14

There's a ton of information about those people. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2022 #17

"There's a ton of information about those people." Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #30

That book on James is incredibly detailed and he leftyladyfrommo Jan 2023 #41

Everybody knows that Jesus required NDAs of all the people he saved... Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #10

It is accepted by historians that Jesus existed Sympthsical Dec 2022 #11

And yet, the Epistles of St Paul, the 'earliest' time he's mentioned anywhere Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #16

I'm super not interested in this debate. Sympthsical Dec 2022 #18

No problem Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #21

Most historians? Yes. The historians who have studied the most? Nope. Goodheart Dec 2022 #33

I sometimes lean in this direction myself. triron Dec 2022 #15

I think the answer to your question splits in three parts. Renew Deal Dec 2022 #20

Perhaps it would be interesting to look into the persistence triron Dec 2022 #27

It doesn't really matter if Jesus existed Buckeyeblue Dec 2022 #22

A trenchant analysis, hell it even sounds like something I'd write nearly verbatim, thanks! (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #24

Ever read this theory before? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #9

I believe there was a historical Jesus PlanetBev Dec 2022 #12

Calling Geraldo! NewHendoLib Dec 2022 #13

I've learned so much from this thread. Jesus had a midwife Croney Dec 2022 #19

Actually, it's his father's brother's cousin's former roommate. Iggo Dec 2022 #23

The most important question when considering whether or not some man-god got sent down Goodheart Dec 2022 #34

There isn't any proof that Jesus or God is real or not real. Dysfunctional Dec 2022 #35

Agreed. triron Dec 2022 #36

Salome?? Wasn't she Herod's daughter?? LeftInTX Dec 2022 #37

One of Jesus's sisters was named Salome. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2023 #40

Mel Brooks' 2,000-Year-Old Man was asked, kskiska Dec 2022 #38

It's becoming laughable edhopper Dec 2022 #39