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LeftInTX

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74. The last paragraph indicates the illegality

Sun Dec 25, 2022, 05:57 PM

Dec 2022

They are being held captive and being forced to work. (Obviously they are working illegally) The people holding them captive have broken numerous laws, in particular labor laws.

I would just point out that there have been several major migrant labor cases in the last few years where DOJ has used the fraud/trafficking/kidnapping statutes with respect to people similarly making false promises to workers about great jobs if they just go along with them. Then the folks are taken to a place half-way across the country and put under guard while they pick crops etc. Then it's on to the next place. Some of these people had been captive for years. Of course the people doing the guarding/transportation all claimed everybody came of their own free will and were free to leave at any time. Of course they couldn't leave because they had no money because their captors were keeping it so their slaves didn't run off. It was heartbreaking to see video of the ghastly conditions they were kept in and just how badly the physical/mental toll had been on them. Of course the growers/owners all claim they never knew a thing. "Harvest of Shame" never went away. They just got better at dressing it up a little or hiding it altogether.

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Can the FBI just arrest Greg Abbot? [View all] PurgedVoter Dec 2022 OP

And arrest the claudette Dec 2022 #1

i've wondered about who drives these buses....... Takket Dec 2022 #3

Still criminal claudette Dec 2022 #5

We didn't punish them when they did this earlier... TheRealNorth Dec 2022 #24

They are demonstrating how very, very Zilli Dec 2022 #47

This is sociopathic behavior. Who else does shit like that? On Christmas Eve? OMGWTF Dec 2022 #53

Sick Ways Dec 2022 #104

What? former9thward Dec 2022 #32

I knew older pilots (and doctors, nurses, etc) who volunteered so younger pilots Ilsa Dec 2022 #50

When I worked in a steel mill we got double and a half pay on Christmas and Christmas Eve. former9thward Dec 2022 #75

Not everyone feels the same way about Christmas? NullTuples Dec 2022 #35

For some of us, Christmas is another work day jmowreader Dec 2022 #60

For a lot of folks, a holiday is just another day of the week. Texin Dec 2022 #99

Drivers and their employers. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #7

And NO BAIL!! 2naSalit Dec 2022 #9

I'm for that claudette Dec 2022 #11

and seize the bus / plane azureblue Dec 2022 #106

It's more complicated than that, but I hope there are consequences. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #2

Absolutely correct. SergeStorms Dec 2022 #28

I'm not sure it's the majority of Texans. hamsterjill Dec 2022 #59

Actually Nothing erpowers Dec 2022 #72

i disagree. Beto ran an awesome campaign, but the dark money forces supporting the GOP here are onetexan Dec 2022 #82

No Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #93

Not only that, he later reversed himself and said he fully supports the 2nd amendment MichMan Dec 2022 #94

Yep, his campaign was dead in the water the moment those words left his lips. Jedi Guy Dec 2022 #105

Beto worked harder than any campaigner I have ever seen yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #109

Are you a resident of Texas? I am and Beto campaigned in every county and advertised as well MagickMuffin Dec 2022 #98

That's what I remember from my time of residency there. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #108

actually we run very clean and accurate elections here yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #115

I've had this conversation with my sister who works on the county level with the Dem. party. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #119

All of our high population counties use them yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #120

You are so right Magick! Fear of losing guns, fear of LGBTQ in general yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #111

I'm a Tarrant County life long resident MagickMuffin Dec 2022 #114

I did not realize county wide was only 32%! That explains yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #117

Just checked again, turnout was 47.04 MagickMuffin Dec 2022 #118

Dude EVERY statewide elected official in TX is an R - LITERALLY Cosmocat Dec 2022 #110

low total turnout and lower percentage of Democratic turnout! yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #112

Might not be received as well wnylib Dec 2022 #33

So winning Timewas Dec 2022 #42

I'm not suggesting that at all. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #46

I agree Timewas Dec 2022 #71

If there was suspected fraud/illegal stuff involved, the DOJ would have filed a civil suit/injunctio LeftInTX Dec 2022 #89

There are never consequences for GOP elected. lostnfound Dec 2022 #97

No expert but ... MiHale Dec 2022 #4

Maybe they are being lied to claudette Dec 2022 #6

And that nobody... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #8

Exactly claudette Dec 2022 #10

They should have rounded up insurrectionists and sent them to Abbott's home LeftInTX Dec 2022 #14

Great idea. But homeless are vulnerable, so wacko fascists work for me housecat Dec 2022 #100

It's way beyond wrong. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #16

Heard earlier today that the bused folks who arrived at the VP's residence were wearing light allegorical oracle Dec 2022 #58

So happy to hear claudette Dec 2022 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #20

exactly. stopdiggin Dec 2022 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #22

I disagree with almost everything you've said here. stopdiggin Dec 2022 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #29

Slap him with estoppal lawsuits - "Cease and Desist" FakeNoose Dec 2022 #12

The evil residing in their hearts is irreversible Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #13

Blagojevich was arrested in his home cutroot Dec 2022 #15

THIS!!! 2naSalit Dec 2022 #17

Blagojevich is a Democrat. dchill Dec 2022 #25

👍 Duppers Dec 2022 #34

IOKIYAR unfortunately. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2022 #19

Reality check: not criminal brooklynite Dec 2022 #21

The only reason they "want" to go dickthegrouch Dec 2022 #23

"Integrity is still a thing. And if it's not coded into law, it should be." stopdiggin Dec 2022 #30

Hope your right. BUT bluestarone Dec 2022 #37

We know because the migrants are asked. brooklynite Dec 2022 #39

I'm not doubting what your saying, BUT bluestarone Dec 2022 #65

They sign waivers LeftInTX Dec 2022 #52

"Want to go" due to fraud possibly? paleotn Dec 2022 #51

Possibly, but not proven so far... brooklynite Dec 2022 #54

That it is, unfortunately. paleotn Dec 2022 #78

Take the Traildogbob Dec 2022 #26

May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad Dec 2022 #31

We should be asking the question: "What else is he doing?" nuxvomica Dec 2022 #36

Start with the bus drivers who are "just following orders," impound the busses, rack up the charges Hekate Dec 2022 #38

Make transportation across state lines a very unpopular job." brooklynite Dec 2022 #41

"I was just following orders" doesn't stir something in your memory? Hm? Hekate Dec 2022 #43

No it doesn't, because the insinuation is "doing something illegal" brooklynite Dec 2022 #45

Look back on some of these trips moniss Dec 2022 #55

That is a question for law enforcement, not the DOT brooklynite Dec 2022 #62

If you read my post I don't think you will moniss Dec 2022 #66

Asylum seekers very frequently take bus trips LeftInTX Dec 2022 #70

I hear you moniss Dec 2022 #73

The last paragraph indicates the illegality LeftInTX Dec 2022 #74

The ones not being guarded were also prosecuted moniss Dec 2022 #88

Yes Meowmee Dec 2022 #92

Or require them to verify legal status of every passenger before embarking? MichMan Dec 2022 #56

Ah " show us your papers" is always a popular expression. brooklynite Dec 2022 #63

Never any lack of knee jerk reactions on threads like this MichMan Dec 2022 #64

Along with "I was just following orders." Have we made up our minds yet? Is this inhumane or not? Hekate Dec 2022 #81

If the migrants weren't forced on the bus I don't see their legal violation... brooklynite Dec 2022 #87

The DOJ could file a civil suit/injunction to stop this, but they haven't LeftInTX Dec 2022 #90

Huh? What? BunkieBandit Dec 2022 #80

Apparently Timewas Dec 2022 #40

Seeing as most of the FBI probably endorses Abbott Marius25 Dec 2022 #44

I hate these "of course they would" assertions. brooklynite Dec 2022 #49

K&R UTUSN Dec 2022 #48

I have long advocated moniss Dec 2022 #57

Yep! LeftInTX Dec 2022 #68

I have a feeling VP Harris will take this one personally Blue Owl Dec 2022 #67

Did he commit a crime? Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #69

dumping people (including kids) out of state in 14 degree weather when most resources are closed Skittles Dec 2022 #86

Attempted murder!!! diehardblue Dec 2022 #107

I definitely agree with you. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #116

reckless endangerment at the very least moonshinegnomie Dec 2022 #102

Greg Abbott is an asshole LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #76

The federal government should seize the Texas governors' residence Tarc Dec 2022 #77

Shoot first. Question later. Kennah Dec 2022 #79

Where's Immigration? DHS? purr-rat beauty Dec 2022 #83

The immigrants are processed at the border and are given a hearing date. LeftInTX Dec 2022 #85

Post removed Post removed Dec 2022 #84

That would be illegal. Abbott knows what he's doing LeftInTX Dec 2022 #91

Assuming the FBI wasn't in on it. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #95

What the hell, I will chime in... OldBaldy1701E Dec 2022 #96

also he claims to be a catholic moonshinegnomie Dec 2022 #101

Republicans say we are weak on crime? Emile Dec 2022 #103

Keeping them from their asylum hearings in Texas IronLionZion Dec 2022 #113

Abbot aided in an abortion seabiscuit5920 Aug 2023 #121