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PurgedVoter

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87. I am of a mixed opinion on this.

Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:39 PM

Dec 2022

Since it has them pledge to the United States for which it stands. The one nation under God does not bother me. If it is true it is true regardless, if it is a myth it is meaningless. But the next part, indivisible says that all secessionists are oath breakers after they make this pledge. Then it says with liberty and justice for all. Once again, it makes the racists forsworn. It strikes at the heart of Republican fascism. So I really don't mind this pledge apart from the meaningless vow to a war banner part, it then says the flag represents the United States. In the end, I don't mind it all that much. Still, what is the value of an oath made under duress?

Or in the case of a Republican, what is the value of a promise, oath or anything they say. Unless you have compromat on a Republican, a reason for them to fear you, or they want money from you, it isn't like they will do anything for anyone. Oaths are unfair. For the decent they force behavior. For conservatives, they are entirely without meaning.

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You will not believe what my in laws did before dinner. [View all] onecaliberal Dec 2022 OP

I never recite the pledge of allegience vlyons Dec 2022 #1

The four of us just stood there silently with out hands at our sides. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #5

I would not participate either. pandr32 Dec 2022 #17

I'm with you, onecaliberal Hekate Dec 2022 #19

My early 20's son was like what kind of Nazi shit was that? onecaliberal Dec 2022 #30

Your son & I could re-enact the bar scene from Casablanca & see who knows "La Marseillaise" Hekate Dec 2022 #42

This is who the trump people are. They're all heavily armed. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #44

Yikes, sorry to hear you have to deal with this creepy crap LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #59

Just tell them it's against the Christian religion to invoke the name of God Aristus Dec 2022 #54

Just remember; A HERETIC I AM Dec 2022 #64

I do not blame you for this LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #74

It seems especially weird to do it before dinner in a private home. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #14

👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Dec 2022 #32

Yup, & i would've been out the door in an instant. onetexan Dec 2022 #75

Nor Do I ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #24

I agree.I would like to hear Congress recite a pledge of allegiance to the constitution,not the flag Walleye Dec 2022 #26

I think Zeitghost Dec 2022 #67

Nice of 'em to work that in. calimary Dec 2022 #79

Many of them would combust. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #94

I don't know how many I've heard say, our first job is to protect the American people Walleye Dec 2022 #99

Agree completely. n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #41

Remarks like that will result in shunning EYESORE 9001 Dec 2022 #57

Here are the words... aggiesal Dec 2022 #98

I always omit the deity part of it, on the very rare occasions I recite it. roamer65 Dec 2022 #126

Good grief... hauckeye Dec 2022 #2

Saying grace before a meal is common but the pledge? Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #3

I get the grace part; my family has always done it. But... Mark.b Dec 2022 #53

The probably just watched Christmas Vacation IbogaProject Dec 2022 #122

After the prayer, it's time to preach the words of Jesus and multigraincracker Dec 2022 #4

I would have had a problem with that. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #6

They didn't make everybody sing "All I Want For Christmas"? rubbersole Dec 2022 #7

Holding hands around the table seems normal; my Mom had us each say one thing we were ... Hekate Dec 2022 #8

I never have to pray before a meal. bluesbassman Dec 2022 #9

Do you have a favorite from her... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #81

Sorry, missed your response... bluesbassman Dec 2022 #129

It sounds like she might do well...... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #130

One of her bucket list items! bluesbassman Dec 2022 #131

Should that come to pass, you will have to... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #132

Sick people, avoid if possible. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2022 #10

So you went WHY? Jirel Dec 2022 #11

That's unfair! We don't know the circumstances or family dynamics at play. Sometimes Floyd R. Turbo Dec 2022 #15

LOL, no. Jirel Dec 2022 #124

Dumb and mean post SCantiGOP Dec 2022 #22

Dumb response. Jirel Dec 2022 #125

My Mil is very old. My husband had a stroke 6 years ago. I want him to see his mother. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #33

Wisdom Hekate Dec 2022 #49

You don't have to explain yourself to sniping critics. NBachers Dec 2022 #93

Thank you. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #118

If your mother in law is very old, is it really that big of a deal womanofthehills Dec 2022 #101

No fucking way and if I'd know that was going to happen, we wouldn't have gone. Eom onecaliberal Dec 2022 #113

I hope it was worth the COVID. Jirel Dec 2022 #127

You're quite the judge of family affairs. Is this your last post on this misfortune? Or... Hekate Dec 2022 #133

Fortunately we avoid the nuts in our families! Floyd R. Turbo Dec 2022 #12

Well, that surely is enough to put people PatSeg Dec 2022 #13

They left out singing Happy Birthday, Jesus? Ptah Dec 2022 #16

Jesus used to enjoy that song every December 25th... Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #25

I'd prefer the "airing of grievances" and "feats of strength".... wcmagumba Dec 2022 #18

Hmmmm, did they finish up with a chorus of "Onward Christian Soldiers?" n/t RKP5637 Dec 2022 #20

That is really sick! You should have said real loud I pledge allegiance to Joe Biden Emile Dec 2022 #21

Yikes. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #23

They vote to kill my husband. I told my my mil to her face. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #35

why him in particular? LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #56

He is a stroke patient, his only income is social security. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #60

Oh no, how awful LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #63

And when the Republicans markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #77

Not according to the 2022 midterms. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #119

Sounds like Christian nationalists to me. wnylib Dec 2022 #27

I won't be visiting them again. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #36

I can understand that. wnylib Dec 2022 #43

I never will again. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #55

Was this Aunt Bethany? Historic NY Dec 2022 #28

Seems like a simple prayer before dinner would have been more appropriate vlyons Dec 2022 #29

"..... justice for all" Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #31

You could've taken a knee in protest during the pledge. Lol IjustDontlikeRepugs Dec 2022 #34

I wish I would have thought of that. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #38

At least you didn't say a pledge of phylny Dec 2022 #37

I didn't participate in the recitation. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #39

I would have made an excuse and got the hell out of there as fast as possible! Initech Dec 2022 #40

We ate and left. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #48

Yeah I wouldn't have hung around for the ambiance! Initech Dec 2022 #106

God doesn't like that... hunter Dec 2022 #45

This is crazy and presumptuous, but cyclonefence Dec 2022 #46

100000000000+ Well stated. LAS14 Dec 2022 #66

I'm with you! Zeitghost Dec 2022 #69

Not sure if you're a Baby Boomer, but many of us on DU are FakeNoose Dec 2022 #100

The ratio of Russians to Americans in Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #47

Are you sure it wasn't a joke? Exact same action was posted constantly Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #50

Uhm no, they're waiting for the "real" president to get back in the White House. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #70

Ah... Totally eatin up with it huh. I have a family member like that Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #86

I'm literally done with these people. The changes are shocking. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #112

But how can you disown inlaws? You just do. You Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #115

I'm not going to disown the mil. The siblings can pound sand. Thankfully we live 2 hours away. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #116

You should ask them if they say the Pledge of Allegiance before sex -- 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #51

Good one! LeftInTX Dec 2022 #58

I don't really have one on one conversations with any of them. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #72

Picture in your mind DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #105

To say the pledge gibraltar72 Dec 2022 #52

Word. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #61

You should have brought a Biden flag LeftInTX Dec 2022 #62

Yes. It was not expected. In retrospect, the theme should have tipped me off. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #65

This is why I take my Kindle to any gatherings Bettie Dec 2022 #68

Yikes Demovictory9 Dec 2022 #71

This reminds me... MontanaMama Dec 2022 #73

My second employer was a totally different situation... madinmaryland Dec 2022 #109

is the prayer circle with pledge a recent addition? dembotoz Dec 2022 #76

At least they didn't mention cannabis_flower Dec 2022 #78

The point of such masturbatory outbursts is the opposite of unity Orrex Dec 2022 #80

Very well stated. Exactly my feelings about the whole thing. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #120

+1000 Niagara Dec 2022 #128

Pledge of Allegiance Al Gorhythm Dec 2022 #82

That was funny! womanofthehills Dec 2022 #97

Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivee... CTyankee Dec 2022 #110

that's what doors are for... bringthePaine Dec 2022 #83

was Richard Stands one of the guests? IcyPeas Dec 2022 #84

In the good ole days on Xmas mchill Dec 2022 #85

I am of a mixed opinion on this. PurgedVoter Dec 2022 #87

They are nuts! Sorry for you. LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #88

That's messed up MustLoveBeagles Dec 2022 #89

You're right nt sarisataka Dec 2022 #90

There is a reason I don't live near some of my relatives. 58Sunliner Dec 2022 #91

When I have to say the pledge. I replace God with a word. The reverse. LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #92

I am old enough DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #102

I believe under god was added when I was born. LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #103

Too many don't receive the full punishment. LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #104

I pledged my allegiance to this country back in the 60s. Iggo Dec 2022 #108

Sounds like National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation dflprincess Dec 2022 #95

I've been dealing with that sort of thing for decades, not quite as bad though. NNadir Dec 2022 #96

I've been married to my husband for 37 years. I've have plenty of experience with them. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #114

That's how long I've been married as well. Best 37 years of my life, so... NNadir Dec 2022 #123

My family knows to never try that with me again. Iggo Dec 2022 #107

Did they then say "Blessed be our New Founding Fathers" Renew Deal Dec 2022 #111

Next year, suggest they follow up the Pledge with a heartwarming little ditty. LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #117

sometimes I think family is very overrated Skittles Dec 2022 #121

Was alcohol involved? ecstatic Dec 2022 #134