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pampango

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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:07 PM Jan 2012

Krugman: 85% of consumer spending in America is on American-produced goods and services [View all]

Not So Global

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/not-so-global/

Barry Ritholtz sends us to a San Francisco Fed paper from last summer that makes a point on which many people seem confused: despite globalization and all that, the bulk of a consumer dollar spent in America falls on American-produced goods and services.

The reason this matters — or at least one reason it matters — is for discussion of austerity, stimulus, and all that. I often get comments along the lines of “Well, maybe stimulus worked back in the old days, but now it just means spending more on stuff from China”. In reality, that’s nowhere near true.

Why? For one thing, most consumer spending is on services, few of which are really tradable. For another, even if the thing you buy in WalMart says “Made in China”, the price includes a lot of US value-added in the form of transportation and retailing costs.



So we’re still a country where about 85 cents of your consumer dollar is spent at home, one way or another. And this means, among other things, that the rules of macroeconomics haven’t changed nearly as much as people imagine.

Canadians spend about 75% on domestic goods and services, Germans about 70%, Swedes less than 60%. Less than 2% of consumer spending here is on Chinese-produced goods.
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I would like to see the separation on goods vs. services Broderick Jan 2012 #1
You are looking at it. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #2
I am not following the chart at all. Confusing to me Broderick Jan 2012 #4
The two scales do make it confusing cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #8
I assume the graph was done that way to better show the rise in the line for Chinese goods. DCBob Jan 2012 #11
That is fascinating.. DCBob Jan 2012 #3
Does this include food? Mz Pip Jan 2012 #5
This is an important point, as is understanding who holds our debt cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #6
Services includes a lot of things that are fixed expenses, housing, insurance, vehicle maintenance.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #7
Food has to be a large part of the "made in USA" buying. canoeist52 Jan 2012 #9
When food and energy are excluded, 88% of expenditure is 'Made in USA' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #12
I assume outsourcing IT, call center, data processing is a service. DCBob Jan 2012 #10
Services, sure. GOODS? No fucking way. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #13
Even DU heroes like Krugman are pissing in the wind against "common sense" dmallind Jan 2012 #14
+1 cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #15
Nice post. Actual facts usually do little to change a belief that "remains an immutable and pampango Jan 2012 #18
+1! Zalatix Jan 2012 #20
It's an interesting claim about aggregate consumer spending. Igel Jan 2012 #16
What's left is food cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #17
The word "aggregate" means added up quaker bill Jan 2012 #25
Kicked and recommended. TheWraith Jan 2012 #19
I stand corrected. applegrove Jan 2012 #21
Fascinating result. joshcryer Jan 2012 #22
I wonder if fast food is counted and how much that accounts for... nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #23
what Krugman ignores if the knock-on effect of manufacturing... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #24
Krugman has not, and is not likely to ignore that cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #26
I am a Krugman fan actually... his point is about stimulus JCMach1 Jan 2012 #28
Sorry for misunderstanding you cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #30
He would probably say something like JCMach1 Jan 2012 #31
Theoretically the real analogy is more like this: joshcryer Jan 2012 #27
mon dieu JCMach1 Jan 2012 #29
Check it out: joshcryer Jan 2012 #32
We have bauxite reserves, but no mining JCMach1 Jan 2012 #33
+1, I think that's true, and it's not like a conspiracy or anything. joshcryer Jan 2012 #34
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