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Ms. Toad

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25. The point isn't whehter individual poor/minority children
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jan 2023

might need to be removed from their families - but that the process disproportionately removes poor and non-whilte children from their families under circumstances in which richer, white children would not have been.

It is a lot more subtle now - and in some instances may be unconscious built-in biases (of the sort which is embedded in laws which imposed far more severe sentences for the use of crack (the drug more frequently used by poor minorities) than equivalent quantities of cocaine (the drug more frequently used by rich white folks).

But it is, in a very real sense, an extension of the deliberate anglicization of native children in the 50s by removing them from their native families and placing them in white families.

My parents were inadvertently part of this theft - thinking they were giving a home to children who had none. My older brother was taken from his mother, a member of the Omaha nation. His mother was an alcoholic, but he was well nourished when he came to us and we have since learned he was well nourished and cared for by extended family when his mother was unable to do so. He would never have been taken from his family had he been white.

We were told, initially, that my younger brother and sister were abandoned in a grocery store with their siblings. We have fewer objective details about their removal from their Lakota mother, but we have since learned that they were not abandoned.

This removal of native americans to white famlies was formal Anglicization policy at the time my siblings were torn from their communities. While it is no longer formal policy, it is still happening in poor/minority comminities because of biases which are built into the system about how children should be raised, becasue of lack of resources to support families who simply lack the financial resoures to support their families, and because of the lack of resources to hire attorneys to fight termination of the family relationship.

That doesn't mean that there wasn't individual justificiation to remove some of the children poor/minority children from their families - simply that as a system, a disproportionate number of poor/minority children are permanently separated from their families under circustances under which minority/white children would not be.


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For good reason - the life of a child or children marybourg Jan 2023 #1
I disagree. It's also not a calculation at all, but a legal gray area that is sorely under-studied WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #2
Everything you say is true. marybourg Jan 2023 #3
Why? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #4
Because society in general has made that calculation; marybourg Jan 2023 #5
That doesn't answer why, and it's not a calculation that's been made; it's happened because of the WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #6
Sorry, but if this is true then the Constitution is a dead letter printed on a roll of toilet paper localroger Jan 2023 #7
+1 leftstreet Jan 2023 #21
What's worse, they need only three accusers to act peppertree Jan 2023 #8
Years ago I remember that case where a baby died from SIDS or something like that Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #9
The welfare of the child is the responsibility of the state. LuvLoogie Jan 2023 #10
. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #11
Intangibles notwithstanding, there is a cost LuvLoogie Jan 2023 #12
Having been a foster parent, I feel many adults shouldn't be parents Kaleva Jan 2023 #13
That can be true while also acknowledging that parents shouldn't have their rights trampled. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #15
From my experience, parents are given many chances Kaleva Jan 2023 #18
Well... if it saves one child.... Fla_Democrat Jan 2023 #14
interesting...... Takket Jan 2023 #16
First off - I agree that the system is broken - and disproportionately deprives Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #17
Getting off drugs would help many parents Kaleva Jan 2023 #19
That doesn't address the disparity with which children are removed Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #23
The kids from rich families probably arent severely malnourished Kaleva Jan 2023 #24
The point isn't whehter individual poor/minority children Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #25
The rules are different for Native American children Kaleva Jan 2023 #26
The rules are different BECAUSE of the express program of removing native children Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #27
How often do you hear of a naked 3 year old girl found in a ditch Kaleva Jan 2023 #28
I don't know how it is in all states. shrike3 Jan 2023 #20
DURec leftstreet Jan 2023 #22
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