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In reply to the discussion: Capitalism Kills Nearly 1 Million Americans Per Year [View all]Farmer-Rick
(12,728 posts)What you mostly describe as capitalism is merely traditional markets like we had back in ancient Roman times without the slavery and brutality.
You can have markets, trading, money and profits without capitalism. Capitalism is using capital to make more capital. Most very small businesses don't start out as capitalist. A family farm that sells produce at a market is Not capitalism. It is just a traditional market.
Borrowing someone else's capital to start a business could be capitalism but it isn't always.
There never was a country, or major part of a country, that had a sustained and successful capitalist economy during the thousands of years of feudalism. Feudalism eventually took over control of any economies that took hold other than feudalism. The kings would just simply take the profits for themselves, until some kind of laws and democracy prevented it.
So just because you think there hasn't been a sustained and successful socialist economy (There is Mondragon in Spain) doesn't mean there never can be. They thought there were no black swans until they found black swans.