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mactire

(130 posts)
24. "Scotch Irish"
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jan 2023

If I’ve learned correctly from other historical texts and my own origins, the “Scotch Irish” are not from Celtic roots as Mr Ste Claire ascertains. They were descendants of planted people that took over the confiscated lands of native Irish folks in the province of Ulster, north east part of the island( in which six of the nine counties became the entity known as “Northern Ireland” a century ago, thus the moniker) These planters originated from northern English borderlands and lowland counties of Scotland which had little or no Celtic DNA. The galloglasses basically were from a different era, mostly from western Scotland(mostly Celts) and the outer isles and Hebrides, of which many had a mixed Celt- Viking background, and hardly friendly (or “loyal”) to the English usurpers. Many of those were people that travelled back and forth between Eire and Scotland through the generations of the kingdom of Dalraida which comprised much of the aforementioned areas. On a lighter note, I can’t contribute any explanation as to the origin of the term “ cracker “, but I do enjoy the term “craic”, of the same pronunciation as crack, meaning a grand old time or gathering, which has been used in both lands and is gaining popularity in places around the globe .

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I thought it was more to due with cracking the whip instead of the color of a bleached flour cracker TheBlackAdder Jan 2023 #1
Correct AntivaxHunters Jan 2023 #2
I think it comes from white settlers in Georgia and Florida. yardwork Jan 2023 #13
Yes, most definitely- Quakerfriend Jan 2023 #3
Well, White was your skin. The cracker part seems to be more of a 'ball buster' type noun. TheBlackAdder Jan 2023 #6
Cracker is a polite term for the scum that own that epithet randr Jan 2023 #4
I'm an old Florida girl..my grandfather called all us kids crackers.. Deuxcents Jan 2023 #5
According to Wikipedia PatSeg Jan 2023 #7
Cracker is akin to "white trash". no_hypocrisy Jan 2023 #8
Succinct definition. Basic LA Jan 2023 #15
History of the term cracker Quakerfriend Jan 2023 #9
Interesting..terms change w/ the times. Deuxcents Jan 2023 #19
I think it is... LakeArenal Jan 2023 #10
In Hawaii, it's haole The Blue Flower Jan 2023 #21
Thanks. I've only been called it. I've never read it. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #22
My father, a native of Georgia and a very white man used comradebillyboy Jan 2023 #11
I wonder if you called one "poor black trash" or " poor yellow trash"... LakeArenal Jan 2023 #23
not a term of endearment that's for sure dembotoz Jan 2023 #12
Nowhere close to that offensive. yardwork Jan 2023 #14
wife is a white teacher in a black school gets called that a lot dembotoz Jan 2023 #17
Are the students suspended or disciplined? MichMan Jan 2023 #26
nope its their cultural expression says the principal dembotoz Jan 2023 #28
One day they might find themselves in the same situation as the person in the OP that was fired MichMan Jan 2023 #33
I'll answer the question with a question sarisataka Jan 2023 #16
I think of it as a racist epithet. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #18
It is a racial epithet and its use in the workplace is unacceptable. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2023 #20
"Scotch Irish" mactire Jan 2023 #24
All I know is that when I called someone a cracker in front of my Mom she slapped my mouth. Midnight Writer Jan 2023 #25
In the Heat of the Night script snippet using the word "cracker" louslobbs Jan 2023 #27
That show ended over 25 years ago MichMan Jan 2023 #37
That is from the 1967 movie, around 56 years ago. Celerity Jan 2023 #40
Even worse; I was referring to the TV show MichMan Jan 2023 #44
I never saw the telly show, just the movie Celerity Jan 2023 #45
Carroll O'Connor was the lead actor MichMan Jan 2023 #50
... Crepuscular Jan 2023 #29
It has become a racial epithet. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #30
At the scene of a car accident I was called a "white honky bitch". milestogo Jan 2023 #31
Not in my opinion. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #32
So POC are free to say anything they like against whites who just silently must take it ? MichMan Jan 2023 #35
+1 BeerBarrelPolka Jan 2023 #36
Saying "anything you want" is not the same as using a meaningless term. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #41
You said "there really aren't any racial epithets against white people in general" MichMan Jan 2023 #43
It's a derogartory term for sure. Like ofay or honkey. SYFROYH Jan 2023 #34
or peckerwood Celerity Jan 2023 #39
When I used to dispatch for a Taxi company, every weekend I was called a cracker. sarcasmo Jan 2023 #38
It's a firing offense Sympthsical Jan 2023 #42
I Heartily Concur ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #47
And no company wants to be put in the position of adjucating that Sympthsical Jan 2023 #48
Right With You ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #49
Just got this email from Stromberg's..... Red Mountain Jan 2023 #46
I call myself a "dumb cracker" occasionally to others. roamer65 Jan 2023 #51
CRAIC: an Irish word in America Hekate Jan 2023 #52
Among Black folks, it definitely is a racial epithet. Eugene Jan 2023 #53
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