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RockRaven

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10. And then do the same on the rules package...? And then do the same on the debt ceiling...?

Fri Jan 6, 2023, 08:57 PM

Jan 2023

And then do the same on the budget...? And then do the same on... whatever...?

Unless you want to just roll over and give McCarthy everything he wants, out of fear he will make a deal for something even worse than his desires with the nutters on his already-lunatic-party's outer fringe, you have to stop cooperating with him somewhere. Stopping before you start is as good of a spot as any, IMO.

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Did Dems make a strategic mistake by not ... [View all] jgo Jan 2023 OP

No. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #1

Even if he did not have to concede since 3 - 5 Democrats would vote for him? question everything Jan 2023 #36

no Dem had to vote for him, just vote present krawhitham Jan 2023 #52

NO durablend Jan 2023 #2

I've thought a lot about this AkFemDem Jan 2023 #3

Not their circus, not their monkeys. Murphyb849 Jan 2023 #4

Correct, but our country, our defense question everything Jan 2023 #38

I think they should have negotiated a deal before today Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #5

There are no moderate Republicans. None. Marius25 Jan 2023 #8

Depends on moderate means ITAL Jan 2023 #17

Such as? FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #22

Don't hold your breath onenote Jan 2023 #30

Same here. I never expect an answer from someone claiming that. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #31

The folks in the best position to answer that question are the ones who ought to be reaching out Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #44

And the Democratic leadership has adamantly been opposed to negotiating onenote Jan 2023 #50

So your position is that we should support the Republican party putting in the worst of the worst Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #51

What deal? Please explain. McCarthy already sides with Boebert, Gaetz, onenote Jan 2023 #53

Gee, maybe you should inform Ohio and PA that what they did was impossible - Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #54

Maybe you should understand that not every situation is the same as every other situation onenote Jan 2023 #55

I think that the party primary system Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #56

+100 Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #19

If there was such a monkey they would have approached the dems. Bev54 Jan 2023 #28

Depends on whether you want to own the Republicans, Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #35

There is no chance of working with the republicans unless they decide to Bev54 Jan 2023 #37

Like the J6 committee didn't function? n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #40

Well the only 2 willing to work with them are no longer there are they. Bev54 Jan 2023 #42

Nine voted with Democrats on the spending bill - Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #46

And which Republicans would that be? moose65 Jan 2023 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Bev54 Jan 2023 #39

Absolutely not. liberalmuse Jan 2023 #6

No. We cannot save them. No way. onecaliberal Jan 2023 #7

Its much better to be an audience member at a circus -- 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #9

In the real world, that's simply not an option. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #12

And then do the same on the rules package...? And then do the same on the debt ceiling...? RockRaven Jan 2023 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #11

"hands across the aisle" is a delusion. GenThePerservering Jan 2023 #13

No. roamer65 Jan 2023 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #20

We are bdamomma Jan 2023 #33

There is a long game being played here. rubbersole Jan 2023 #15

I've Been Hearing That Since 2000 SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #23

I'm thinking Kansas after Dobbs. rubbersole Jan 2023 #43

No that is not accurate. former9thward Jan 2023 #45

Good. Thanks f9w! rubbersole Jan 2023 #47

LET him have? You mean vote FOR him? Hortensis Jan 2023 #16

It's not the Dem's move to make. Gore1FL Jan 2023 #18

JFC are you trying a back-handed mercuryblues Jan 2023 #21

And you knew those concessions were going to be made how? LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #24

Quit Blaming The Democratic Party For Doing The Right Thing SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #25

no, remember the Senate quaker bill Jan 2023 #26

No. Don't interrupt your opponent while they are making mistakes Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #27

+1 Takket Jan 2023 #32

No onenote Jan 2023 #29

No mcar Jan 2023 #41

Hell no Hekate Jan 2023 #48

If I'm in the GOOP, I'm not trusting Kevin, so the Dems definitely should not trust Kevin Kennah Jan 2023 #49