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CoopersDad

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12. The concessions weaken them, we want them weakened, the alternative...

Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:01 PM

Jan 2023

...caving so that Kevin kept all the power would only make them stronger.

Now they'll be in more disarray.

It's not ideal, it's better than helping him win early.

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Why didn't the Dems organize so that McCarthy didn't have to give the farm away? [View all] Marcus IM Jan 2023 OP

Why should Democrats bail out McCarthy? Nictuku Jan 2023 #1

Thinking about this a little more Nictuku Jan 2023 #6

I never suggested that Dems back McC. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #23

McCarthy would rather be owned by insurrectionists than Dems. He didn't want Dem deal. nt Samrob Jan 2023 #61

Let them stew in their own mess. MLAA Jan 2023 #2

Yep. But, aren't we all going to have to stew with them? n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #45

Dems benefit from the 1 Rep can call to vote him out Nictuku Jan 2023 #62

The farm would have been given away anyway, why should the Democrats help them? dem4decades Jan 2023 #3

Nailed it! PortTack Jan 2023 #9

Seems to me the insurrectionists have even more power than they would have had. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #19

Their power is and was real and continues for the next 2 years karynnj Jan 2023 #34

I understand. Thanks. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #47

Why didn't 6 sane Republicans see what was happening & join Democrats in voting for Jefferies dflprincess Jan 2023 #4

Because if they did Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #14

There is that dflprincess Jan 2023 #28

Because McCarthy would have to "give away the farm" to get the rules package passed, unless RockRaven Jan 2023 #5

I said nowhere that Dems should roll over, just strategised to not give McC so much pressure to ... Marcus IM Jan 2023 #37

I don't think cutting SS and women's freedoms cilla4progress Jan 2023 #7

Exactly! This is nothing more than a political football PortTack Jan 2023 #17

?! - to save wingnuts?! - uh... UTUSN Jan 2023 #8

How many more times will this be asked? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #10

Seriously! durablend Jan 2023 #11

THIS 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #13

Excuse me. I've been at work, not glued to DU. Apologies for the offence. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #32

It was your implied assumption that Dem leadership is both stupid (unprepared) & all-powerful Hekate Jan 2023 #51

OK. I removed it. Sorry for the outrage I created. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #52

The concessions weaken them, we want them weakened, the alternative... CoopersDad Jan 2023 #12

They'd be more split if McCarthy dealt with Democrats News Junkie Jan 2023 #36

We don't know if they did or didn't try. CoopersDad Jan 2023 #56

You act like republicans would have taken democrat's offer even if we gave it...... Claustrum Jan 2023 #15

I act like??? I'm asking a question? wtf? Marcus IM Jan 2023 #22

Sorry. I don't mean it offensively. Claustrum Jan 2023 #25

Thanks. I haven't been glued to DU. Been working. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #30

It's Kevin got six votes from Democrats, he would lose all of his Republican votes Walleye Jan 2023 #16

I never suggested that Dems back McC. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #24

Well I think if he made any kind of deal with Democrats Walleye Jan 2023 #27

I suggested neither. Just lowering the vote threshold so McC wouldn't have to make deals w/the 20. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #31

When opponent is making mistakes, don't stop them. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #18

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jan 2023 #21

Because that was never a real option. McCarthy would lose 100+ Republicans tritsofme Jan 2023 #20

Wasn't suggesting a deal. Just lowering the threshold so McC wouldn't have to give away any power .. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #26

Huh? mcar Jan 2023 #29

Just suggesting that a different strategy could have worked in our favor. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #33

The problems began way back that lead to this nazi cluster-fuck in the house tonight. LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #35

So, you're saying it is the Dems fault. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #39

NO, what I'm saying is that it shouldn't have come down to this .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #53

That must have been some trick... moose65 Jan 2023 #49

I made a mistake, I mean his SON. LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #55

Wait, what????? Karma13612 Jan 2023 #38

I wasn't suggesting making a deal nor cooperating/negotiating with them. Clearly. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #42

Relax, McCarthy is as good as his word. Omnipresent Jan 2023 #40

From your lips ... n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #43

Because McCarthy giving the farm away was always going to happen at some point. tanyev Jan 2023 #41

Stand up to them? He's one of them? onenote Jan 2023 #48

Um, that's why I said there's NO reality where he stands up to them. tanyev Jan 2023 #65

So you think that who is on the rules committee onenote Jan 2023 #44

I guess we'll see. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #50

Past is prologue. #1 There are no "moderate" Republicans left. #2 The GOP has a hard-right agenda Hekate Jan 2023 #58

They were very clear about not wanting dems help Fullduplexxx Jan 2023 #46

There's a reason why that's not done... WarGamer Jan 2023 #54

Yes, this shitshow is all the Dems fault maxrandb Jan 2023 #57

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000THANKYOU betsuni Jan 2023 #59

It is very dull, isn't it? yardwork Jan 2023 #69

Since far too many on our side of the aisle are just as interested in owning the Republicans Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #60

What less disastrous option might we have had? yardwork Jan 2023 #68

What farm did he give away? How would McCarthy speakership be any different? onenote Jan 2023 #63

Thank you. Claustrum Jan 2023 #67

What could Kevin be trusted to do? His own party members don't trust him. Kennah Jan 2023 #64

No. ismnotwasm Jan 2023 #66