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48. Stand up to them? He's one of them?

Reply to tanyev (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:30 PM

Jan 2023

When did he ever break with them?

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Why didn't the Dems organize so that McCarthy didn't have to give the farm away? [View all] Marcus IM Jan 2023 OP

Why should Democrats bail out McCarthy? Nictuku Jan 2023 #1

Thinking about this a little more Nictuku Jan 2023 #6

I never suggested that Dems back McC. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #23

McCarthy would rather be owned by insurrectionists than Dems. He didn't want Dem deal. nt Samrob Jan 2023 #61

Let them stew in their own mess. MLAA Jan 2023 #2

Yep. But, aren't we all going to have to stew with them? n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #45

Dems benefit from the 1 Rep can call to vote him out Nictuku Jan 2023 #62

The farm would have been given away anyway, why should the Democrats help them? dem4decades Jan 2023 #3

Nailed it! PortTack Jan 2023 #9

Seems to me the insurrectionists have even more power than they would have had. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #19

Their power is and was real and continues for the next 2 years karynnj Jan 2023 #34

I understand. Thanks. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #47

Why didn't 6 sane Republicans see what was happening & join Democrats in voting for Jefferies dflprincess Jan 2023 #4

Because if they did Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #14

There is that dflprincess Jan 2023 #28

Because McCarthy would have to "give away the farm" to get the rules package passed, unless RockRaven Jan 2023 #5

I said nowhere that Dems should roll over, just strategised to not give McC so much pressure to ... Marcus IM Jan 2023 #37

I don't think cutting SS and women's freedoms cilla4progress Jan 2023 #7

Exactly! This is nothing more than a political football PortTack Jan 2023 #17

?! - to save wingnuts?! - uh... UTUSN Jan 2023 #8

How many more times will this be asked? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #10

Seriously! durablend Jan 2023 #11

THIS 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #13

Excuse me. I've been at work, not glued to DU. Apologies for the offence. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #32

It was your implied assumption that Dem leadership is both stupid (unprepared) & all-powerful Hekate Jan 2023 #51

OK. I removed it. Sorry for the outrage I created. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #52

The concessions weaken them, we want them weakened, the alternative... CoopersDad Jan 2023 #12

They'd be more split if McCarthy dealt with Democrats News Junkie Jan 2023 #36

We don't know if they did or didn't try. CoopersDad Jan 2023 #56

You act like republicans would have taken democrat's offer even if we gave it...... Claustrum Jan 2023 #15

I act like??? I'm asking a question? wtf? Marcus IM Jan 2023 #22

Sorry. I don't mean it offensively. Claustrum Jan 2023 #25

Thanks. I haven't been glued to DU. Been working. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #30

It's Kevin got six votes from Democrats, he would lose all of his Republican votes Walleye Jan 2023 #16

I never suggested that Dems back McC. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #24

Well I think if he made any kind of deal with Democrats Walleye Jan 2023 #27

I suggested neither. Just lowering the vote threshold so McC wouldn't have to make deals w/the 20. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #31

When opponent is making mistakes, don't stop them. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #18

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jan 2023 #21

Because that was never a real option. McCarthy would lose 100+ Republicans tritsofme Jan 2023 #20

Wasn't suggesting a deal. Just lowering the threshold so McC wouldn't have to give away any power .. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #26

Huh? mcar Jan 2023 #29

Just suggesting that a different strategy could have worked in our favor. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #33

The problems began way back that lead to this nazi cluster-fuck in the house tonight. LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #35

So, you're saying it is the Dems fault. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #39

NO, what I'm saying is that it shouldn't have come down to this .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #53

That must have been some trick... moose65 Jan 2023 #49

I made a mistake, I mean his SON. LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #55

Wait, what????? Karma13612 Jan 2023 #38

I wasn't suggesting making a deal nor cooperating/negotiating with them. Clearly. Marcus IM Jan 2023 #42

Relax, McCarthy is as good as his word. Omnipresent Jan 2023 #40

From your lips ... n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #43

Because McCarthy giving the farm away was always going to happen at some point. tanyev Jan 2023 #41

Stand up to them? He's one of them? onenote Jan 2023 #48

Um, that's why I said there's NO reality where he stands up to them. tanyev Jan 2023 #65

So you think that who is on the rules committee onenote Jan 2023 #44

I guess we'll see. n/t Marcus IM Jan 2023 #50

Past is prologue. #1 There are no "moderate" Republicans left. #2 The GOP has a hard-right agenda Hekate Jan 2023 #58

They were very clear about not wanting dems help Fullduplexxx Jan 2023 #46

There's a reason why that's not done... WarGamer Jan 2023 #54

Yes, this shitshow is all the Dems fault maxrandb Jan 2023 #57

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000THANKYOU betsuni Jan 2023 #59

It is very dull, isn't it? yardwork Jan 2023 #69

Since far too many on our side of the aisle are just as interested in owning the Republicans Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #60

What less disastrous option might we have had? yardwork Jan 2023 #68

What farm did he give away? How would McCarthy speakership be any different? onenote Jan 2023 #63

Thank you. Claustrum Jan 2023 #67

What could Kevin be trusted to do? His own party members don't trust him. Kennah Jan 2023 #64

No. ismnotwasm Jan 2023 #66