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ymetca

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106. Just because someone is a "very well-regarded expert"
Sat Jan 7, 2023, 12:23 AM
Jan 2023

doesn't necessarily make their assertions correct.

Then you have to consider what might be their personal agenda, regardless of the media conduit.

And then you shouldn't disregard someone simply because of how you got the message, or other reasons having nothing to do with the actual statements made.

Then there's the problem of context. We all know how statements taken out of context get spun wildly in the aethyrs.

Ugh! I got a headache. No wonder we're all confused...

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Good stuff! 👍 dchill Jan 2023 #1
K&R. Dave Troy has been on this for months Arazi Jan 2023 #2
McCarthy could improve his chances by promising a bill to prohibit any aid to Ukraine dalton99a Jan 2023 #3
Hartmann's a great resource. Why the "concern"? live love laugh Jan 2023 #4
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Jan 2023 #10
IKR !! 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️ live love laugh Jan 2023 #11
Yup, he's well informed, and when he's not, he says so. Magoo48 Jan 2023 #115
Right elleng Jan 2023 #24
"Hartmann's a great resource". I definitely agree markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #44
On the plus side, there's no reason to assume Russian information Hortensis Jan 2023 #88
Hartmann's a great read and a great Democrat. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #5
K & R SalviaBlue Jan 2023 #6
Yes, Hartmann's historic take always passes the verify test. Ninga Jan 2023 #7
Who has "concerns" about Thom Hartmann? Jeebo Jan 2023 #8
He was on RT for some time. That's a concern. dchill Jan 2023 #9
Seven years on the payroll of Putin's propaganda network. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #14
OK. Big concern. dchill Jan 2023 #18
Yeah, because the Russian propaganda machine did nothing to disrupt American democracy. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #19
the current direction of CNN FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #63
You are too funny Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #70
I'd rather be funny. It's far preferable to being the corporate shill FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #93
I think enemies of our party who claim good Democrats are corporate shills Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #94
Corporate/billionaire interests ARE the enemies of the Democratic party FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #95
One can only wonder about those who come on a forum for Democrats to falsely accuse Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #96
Certainly by those with a purpose, it's claimed to be "suspicious". FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #98
Shades of 2016 Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #99
Whatever keeps you calm, right? FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #100
Yes, that Conservadem/corporate shill/neoliberal/corporatist slander needs to stay in 2016. betsuni Jan 2023 #102
At the time Hatmann and several other progressives were on RT, yaesu Jan 2023 #46
"Progressive?" I don't think we share definitions of that term in common. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #47
Proof? nt yaesu Jan 2023 #67
Try not to get sick: Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #69
Thank you. At one point you could get RT on cable. I watched it myself for a while. scarletlib Jan 2023 #52
You are welcome and you made some great points nt yaesu Jan 2023 #72
RT allowed so-called (but not really) "progressives" to slam the Democratic party Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #68
I'm an old school FDR Democrat so forgive me if I ask Rural_Progressive Jan 2023 #78
good post. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #79
+1 progressoid Jan 2023 #87
FDR saved capitalism, a capitalist who hated socialism. betsuni Jan 2023 #90
I so much love people on both sides of the political aisle who make statements like Rural_Progressive Jan 2023 #92
This is a forum for supporters of the Democratic Party, not The Intercept. betsuni Jan 2023 #97
What an odd response ymetca Jan 2023 #103
What corporate influence has there been over the Democratic Party? betsuni Jan 2023 #104
Not really... ymetca Jan 2023 #107
No, the majority of Americans have no interest in a populist "working class" revolution. betsuni Jan 2023 #108
Thank you! ymetca Jan 2023 #101
The fact that, for a time, Putin's interests may have aligned with supporting Hartmann's voice... thesquanderer Jan 2023 #58
"Putin's interests may have aligned with supporting Hartmann's voice..." Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #64
those who whine, but don't listen to Hartmann FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #60
Dish Network and DirecTV and other US providers carried RT to the public. One assumes you are just progressoid Jan 2023 #75
Was his content any different on RT? live love laugh Jan 2023 #25
He was paid for his content by Putin. So... dchill Jan 2023 #27
You didn't answer my question. live love laugh Jan 2023 #28
Yes. I did. It's a permanent (?) on his content. dchill Jan 2023 #31
So you don't know and have no proof. Got it. ✔️ live love laugh Jan 2023 #32
His content is corrupted and therefore irrelevant. dchill Jan 2023 #35
Proof? live love laugh Jan 2023 #36
Jesus! He worked for Putin! That's ALL it takes! dchill Jan 2023 #40
Here, you can peruse all of his columns. Seems pretty US-liberal-progressive to me... NullTuples Jan 2023 #53
IF there was any pro-Putin content, we'd know. live love laugh Jan 2023 #65
But he has repeated Putin propaganda, and that's the problem. NullTuples Jan 2023 #73
So no proof then. ✔️ live love laugh Jan 2023 #62
Using US authors is a way of laundering Hortensis Jan 2023 #86
+1 betsuni Jan 2023 #89
Just because someone is a "very well-regarded expert" ymetca Jan 2023 #106
Respect and referral from their fellow experts is THE way Hortensis Jan 2023 #114
What is RT? Jeebo Jan 2023 #56
Russia Today, a Russian state media propaganda network that answers directly to Putin. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #59
What is RT? never mind drmeow Jan 2023 #83
Sentient beings. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #13
Why? live love laugh Jan 2023 #23
many sentient beings have a default distrust of anyone who spent several years on Putin's payroll cab67 Jan 2023 #26
Memory. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #29
Memory of what? live love laugh Jan 2023 #30
Putin's plan to destroy our democracy and to subvert our party's nominee. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #33
Sure. Via Thom Hartmann TELLING us as much. live love laugh Jan 2023 #37
Uh, no. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #38
Really? That's all you have? LOL live love laugh Jan 2023 #39
No, read the indictments that came out of the Mueller Report. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #41
Where's Hartmann in the report? live love laugh Jan 2023 #43
Don't be naive. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #45
You. Have. Nothing. live love laugh Jan 2023 #48
You. Are. Dead. Wrong. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #50
NO proof but I'm wrong. 😀😃😄😁🤣😆😂 live love laugh Jan 2023 #54
What the heck are you talking about? Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #55
The irony of this guy asking if others are in the hands of Putin is a bit rich. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #12
Please list... lonely bird Jan 2023 #34
I read "concerns" and thought he was having health issues Kennah Jan 2023 #15
I have no doubt they are working for Putin FakeNoose Jan 2023 #16
Hartmann is one of the handful of people I go to, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #20
Have a problem with Thom Hartmann? Call "Stop Reaching for Things That Don't Exist" for help. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #21
LOL, god, no. Remember, the brain stores known propaganda as information Hortensis Jan 2023 #22
During the years in question. (the rt years), Prairie_Seagull Jan 2023 #42
Allies? Not my ally. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #49
Well said. n/t Liberal In Texas Jan 2023 #51
I'm with you Seagull Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #74
I'm with you Farmer Rick. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2023 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #80
Thom is a treasure. Brilliant mind. NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #57
Yep.....I've always said that he's a national treasure. Liberal In Texas Jan 2023 #61
A nation treasure to which nation? Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #71
Agree. Many want to destroy our treasures. live love laugh Jan 2023 #66
They all sound like a Fifth Column in the bag for their anti-democracy, anti-West global owners. ancianita Jan 2023 #76
Yes, the Russian connection. Nt BootinUp Jan 2023 #77
Yeah, billionaires want the economy to explode. LOL what a clown take. mathematic Jan 2023 #81
+1,000,000 Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #84
Yes, I thought the "status quo" was what billionaires wanted. betsuni Jan 2023 #91
IF the top 10% actually paid their fair share of taxes, we could make HUGE progress on debt. TigressDem Jan 2023 #82
They must be removed from Congress as Traitors SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #105
Party of Ideas or party of branding? Roy Rolling Jan 2023 #109
What concerns? I like Hartmann. ananda Jan 2023 #110
Here's the thing: no_hypocrisy Jan 2023 #111
I've NEVER had concerns about Thom. He is a great person who cares about this country. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2023 #112
Suspend your concerns about Hartmann , HELL NO ! stonecutter357 Jan 2023 #113
I would say something about your "concerns" regarding Hartmann RocRizzo55 Jan 2023 #116
I have never had 'concerns' about Thom Hartmann. He is top notch in his PatrickforB Jan 2023 #117
Making a note about this one. calimary Jan 2023 #118
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