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onenote

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50. And the Democratic leadership has adamantly been opposed to negotiating
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 11:44 PM
Jan 2023

so maybe they know that there aren't any moderates to negotiate with (apart from Fitzpatrick who is a coalition of one).

Womack: moderate? Opposed to same sex marriage, voted against the Respect for Marriage Act, strongly anti-choice, believes life begins at conception, voted against legislation requiring publication of presidential tax returns (five repubs voted for it, none are currently in Congress). Just the tip of the iceberg of the long list of bills in which he joined with around 200 other Republicans (including the Freedom Caucus members) to oppose legislation supported by Democrats.

Upton -- Not in Congress, no leverage. If he was a serious negotiating partner for any republicans, someone would have nominated him or at least voted for him.

Joyce -- voted 31 times to repeal ACA, strongly anti-choice, "A" rating from the NRA.

So what sort of deal do you think could have been struck with these folks, all of whom have sided with McCarthy and the rest of the Republican caucus, including the Freedom Caucus members on virtually every consequential piece of legislation. Who would become speaker? What would the Democrats get for supporting a anti-choice, anti-gun control, pro-Trump republican?

It boggles the mind to think that some people believe there was a deal to be made that either side could live with.

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No. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #1
Even if he did not have to concede since 3 - 5 Democrats would vote for him? question everything Jan 2023 #36
no Dem had to vote for him, just vote present krawhitham Jan 2023 #52
NO durablend Jan 2023 #2
I've thought a lot about this AkFemDem Jan 2023 #3
Not their circus, not their monkeys. Murphyb849 Jan 2023 #4
Correct, but our country, our defense question everything Jan 2023 #38
I think they should have negotiated a deal before today Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #5
There are no moderate Republicans. None. Marius25 Jan 2023 #8
Depends on moderate means ITAL Jan 2023 #17
Such as? FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #22
Don't hold your breath onenote Jan 2023 #30
Same here. I never expect an answer from someone claiming that. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #31
The folks in the best position to answer that question are the ones who ought to be reaching out Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #44
And the Democratic leadership has adamantly been opposed to negotiating onenote Jan 2023 #50
So your position is that we should support the Republican party putting in the worst of the worst Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #51
What deal? Please explain. McCarthy already sides with Boebert, Gaetz, onenote Jan 2023 #53
Gee, maybe you should inform Ohio and PA that what they did was impossible - Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #54
Maybe you should understand that not every situation is the same as every other situation onenote Jan 2023 #55
I think that the party primary system Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #56
+100 Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #19
If there was such a monkey they would have approached the dems. Bev54 Jan 2023 #28
Depends on whether you want to own the Republicans, Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #35
There is no chance of working with the republicans unless they decide to Bev54 Jan 2023 #37
Like the J6 committee didn't function? n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #40
Well the only 2 willing to work with them are no longer there are they. Bev54 Jan 2023 #42
Nine voted with Democrats on the spending bill - Ms. Toad Jan 2023 #46
And which Republicans would that be? moose65 Jan 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Bev54 Jan 2023 #39
Absolutely not. liberalmuse Jan 2023 #6
No. We cannot save them. No way. onecaliberal Jan 2023 #7
Its much better to be an audience member at a circus -- 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #9
In the real world, that's simply not an option. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #12
And then do the same on the rules package...? And then do the same on the debt ceiling...? RockRaven Jan 2023 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #11
"hands across the aisle" is a delusion. GenThePerservering Jan 2023 #13
No. roamer65 Jan 2023 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #20
We are bdamomma Jan 2023 #33
There is a long game being played here. rubbersole Jan 2023 #15
I've Been Hearing That Since 2000 SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #23
I'm thinking Kansas after Dobbs. rubbersole Jan 2023 #43
No that is not accurate. former9thward Jan 2023 #45
Good. Thanks f9w! rubbersole Jan 2023 #47
LET him have? You mean vote FOR him? Hortensis Jan 2023 #16
It's not the Dem's move to make. Gore1FL Jan 2023 #18
JFC are you trying a back-handed mercuryblues Jan 2023 #21
And you knew those concessions were going to be made how? LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #24
Quit Blaming The Democratic Party For Doing The Right Thing SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #25
no, remember the Senate quaker bill Jan 2023 #26
No. Don't interrupt your opponent while they are making mistakes Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #27
+1 Takket Jan 2023 #32
No onenote Jan 2023 #29
No mcar Jan 2023 #41
Hell no Hekate Jan 2023 #48
If I'm in the GOOP, I'm not trusting Kevin, so the Dems definitely should not trust Kevin Kennah Jan 2023 #49
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