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Just A Box Of Rain

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76. The economic and political record of populist authoritarian/totalitarian societies

Sun Jan 8, 2023, 05:58 PM

Jan 2023

with command economies is far (far) worse.

Name one state with a command economy that you'd hold up as a model for those who prize the sort of freedoms we enjoy in a liberal democracy.

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The Coup is complete [View all] edhopper Jan 2023 OP

The house can obstruct, but they cannot pass legislation on their own. 33taw Jan 2023 #1

But they can stop any legislation from being passed at all and that's almost worse. catbyte Jan 2023 #3

No doubt we are in for some very difficult times, but there may be consequences. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #11

The Media edhopper Jan 2023 #13

This! Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #33

The corporate media may give lip service to democracy for a while but I don't expect that to last Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #29

Capitalism and liberal democracy are inextricably linked. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #73

It was unfettered capitalism aka corporate supremacy that did nothing but Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #75

The economic and political record of populist authoritarian/totalitarian societies Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #76

There will always be a command economy, the preeminent question being, Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #78

We got a lot of good stuff passed in the past two years Polybius Jan 2023 #61

They are planning to shut down the Government edhopper Jan 2023 #12

Mint the platinum coin Iwasthere Jan 2023 #15

Would love Joe edhopper Jan 2023 #26

This is exactly why I say that MAGA / America First is a cancer on politics. Initech Jan 2023 #24

they can try to ruin anything they want but is is DOA at the Senate Takket Jan 2023 #2

No. Not everything. at140 Jan 2023 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jan 2023 #6

Next election is 22 months away. at140 Jan 2023 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jan 2023 #23

They did it under Clinton edhopper Jan 2023 #16

Didn't they shutdown government Dave says Jan 2023 #66

The first shutdown was in 1995-96 (Clinton) former9thward Jan 2023 #81

Ah yes, forgot about that Dave says Jan 2023 #83

Republicans never get blamed for anything. Boomerproud Jan 2023 #25

WTF is up with that?? It is so historically true going back to Gingrich/ Delay in the 90's. It's Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #34

Yes. In the 1990's, right around the time that unregulated right-wing media started hadEnuf Jan 2023 #44

Coincides with Fairness Doctrine going away Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #68

Absolutely. And media deregulation. hadEnuf Jan 2023 #69

I am wondering if anyone has initiated legislation to remedy that over last 20 years? Never heard Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #70

No legislation that I know of. hadEnuf Jan 2023 #74

The Fairness Doctrine was passed as the need for "fairness" was real and identified. WTF happened? Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #79

What's up is that Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #48

not disagreeing. I only listen to Democracy Now and MSNBC at this point. CNN against my better Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #67

"All new funding bills originate in the House"...and need to be passed as well by the Senate. brooklynite Jan 2023 #30

yes, and signed by the president at140 Jan 2023 #36

And not raising the debt ceiling edhopper Jan 2023 #14

Is this any way to run a democracy? at140 Jan 2023 #4

Uh, no, Democrats voting for that traitor trash scumbag Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #49

My point is McCarthy will be even worse now at140 Jan 2023 #59

The only reason the Rs have the House is because of their cheating in gerrymandering districts ..... Botany Jan 2023 #7

That and our effective campaign issue of at140 Jan 2023 #10

But they don't care edhopper Jan 2023 #18

And they say with a straight face about how the won back the House w/the support of the voters. Botany Jan 2023 #21

Good example of how truly fucked up we are allowing this to be normalized. n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #37

THAT...and the fact that they got more votes. Thunderbeast Jan 2023 #28

Getting three million more votes didn't hurt, either Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #50

Does he have to keep his promises to them? keithbvadu2 Jan 2023 #8

Well.. another concession is Cha Jan 2023 #19

Doubtful since a move and a second does SharonClark Jan 2023 #22

A majority could be all the Democrats ... VMA131Marine Jan 2023 #27

If he doesn't edhopper Jan 2023 #20

I would like to think there are unicorns. live love laugh Jan 2023 #17

Why I thought we should look beyond the " no way should we Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #31

I had edhopper Jan 2023 #32

I want my money back!! Wasted a whole week lol Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #39

Oh really? Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #51

Good point - don't even try! :) I'd take trying and possibly Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #60

We can thank FOX and Friends and all FOX pundits for the next two years of mayhem. nt Samrob Jan 2023 #35

Why Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #40

As long as POTUS appoints judges we can move forward without the House housecat Jan 2023 #38

I know! Never understood why this mattered so much given that hopefully we can stop them Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #41

I forgot about the veto. Thanks for mentioning that! housecat Jan 2023 #45

That remains to be seen. We have the Senate and the Executive, right? Hekate Jan 2023 #42

Exactly. So wonder what they are thinking? Just a bit Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #46

How exactly would the house be any different? onenote Jan 2023 #43

Not like during the Speaker vote there was a group that Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #47

Is a powerless Democratic party implicit in the post? If so, maybe its discourageprop (nt) FreepFryer Jan 2023 #52

No edhopper Jan 2023 #53

Yet there are Democrats in the House. (nt) FreepFryer Jan 2023 #54

I don't unbderstand edhopper Jan 2023 #55

exactly what u said. your post disregards any impact the Democrats can have in Congress. (nt) FreepFryer Jan 2023 #57

If all the Repubs edhopper Jan 2023 #58

LOL K. (nt) FreepFryer Jan 2023 #62

It sounds like you think edhopper Jan 2023 #63

in internet parlance, "K" means I'm done talking - because you proved my point. FreepFryer Jan 2023 #64

K edhopper Jan 2023 #65

Indeed. dalton99a Jan 2023 #56

We only need a handful of sane republicans to neutralize this extremism FlyingPiggy Jan 2023 #71

Name 2 edhopper Jan 2023 #72

There's a couple listed in here: FlyingPiggy Jan 2023 #77

The Problem-Solvers Caucus Locutusofborg Jan 2023 #80

Insurrectionists are major players in one of our two political parties. spanone Jan 2023 #82