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TigressDem

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36. We simply STAND UP for DEMOCRACY like we did with UKRAINE
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 02:28 AM
Jan 2023

It isn't because US is all powerful, but we do have (or historically had) some influence.

It's part of "the WHOLE WORLD is Watching YOU" that CAN be a political deterrent, or at least it was in the past.

It's a show of UNITY. Or it could have been.

INSTEAD of being a country that other countries see as a solid Democracy, we can't even get together enough to pass resolutions that show we still believe in and support Democracy for those who reach out to US.

What Bernie says speaks more to our total disarray being an embarrassment to Democracy than any hope that our words alone would have saved Brazil.

HOW it USED to be was that when there was a threat to DEMOCRACY the US stood up and stood with those wanting to keep their DEMOCRACY. We would get NATO involved, have people help make sure voting was not being impeded. It would have lead to more than words, BUT THE US COULD NOT EVEN GET THE WORDS OUT because we are dealing with our own insurrectionists.

Before GW *ush we had a lot more political sway in the world. After 9/11 he lit a match in the middle east and we've been going down hill since then in many ways. 100's of years of political negotiations and establishing that we are a nation that was mature enough to be trusted flushed down the toilet.

We used to have enough conversations around the World that had become working relations even if we couldn't help everyone, at least we were trying NOT to be part of the problem. It's why countries have foreign ambassadors, to try and keep the peace and help when and if we can.

We were never some sort of magic wand, but we were often more helpful than harmful as a nation, even if our business folks dirtied up other countries worse than they did at home.












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Today's attacks [View all] Uncle Joe Jan 2023 OP
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #1
Congressman Jeffries gave a most excellent speech Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #3
He certainly did, it was historic and gave us hope for the future! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #5
I hear you Rhiannnon, nothing says thank you to the police officers that died and risked their lives Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #7
Not to mention, only one lone Republican showed up to honor those who were lost on that day Rhiannon12866 Jan 2023 #10
4 police officers committed suicide within months of that day Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #12
Yep. All you need to know. calimary Jan 2023 #23
It was VERY clever and well-written. calimary Jan 2023 #29
I wouldn't envy anyone having to follow Jeffries speech much less Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #31
Indeed. Can you say "upstaged"? calimary Jan 2023 #43
Great post - especially the A-to-Z graphic! calimary Jan 2023 #44
Does Bernie think a resolution would have stopped this? iemanja Jan 2023 #2
If we believe powerful forces were behind the coup of January 6th other than Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #4
That's ridiculous iemanja Jan 2023 #6
So you're saying it would entirely impossible for Brazilian economic/political forces Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #8
Of course iemanja Jan 2023 #9
I'm not speaking of most Brazilians however even they have access to the Internet and T.V. Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #11
Well, we did influence them in one way iemanja Jan 2023 #13
+1000000000 betsuni Jan 2023 #14
What makes you believe President Biden's speech didn't change things? Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #15
Did the coup happen? iemanja Jan 2023 #16
I know how they take place, we supported many of them Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #17
US military interventions, if that is what you are eluding to, iemanja Jan 2023 #19
Like democratically elected governments, we overthrew them Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #20
Change has to come from below iemanja Jan 2023 #24
Yes and your point is? Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #26
Viewing the world from the top reinforces the status quo iemanja Jan 2023 #27
Nothing in promoting people at the top to support the people at the bottom Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #28
We simply STAND UP for DEMOCRACY like we did with UKRAINE TigressDem Jan 2023 #36
We have committed billions in military aid to Ukraine iemanja Jan 2023 #46
+1 ShazzieB Jan 2023 #32
Of course it isn't Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #33
I did not say that. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #35
I didn't say no influence iemanja Jan 2023 #47
GDP Per nation Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #48
Good post. 40RatRod Jan 2023 #38
+1 Lulu KC Jan 2023 #18
:) The senate had unanimously PASSED that resolution in September, Hortensis Jan 2023 #37
The OP thinks it would have stopped it iemanja Jan 2023 #39
:) I think Sanders' tweet maybe was meant to work Hortensis Jan 2023 #40
Thank you for the info it had already passed. betsuni Jan 2023 #45
Can't Imagine... Irishxs Jan 2023 #21
The major difference being, they did it when nobody was there, Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #22
I suspect they will show us iemanja Jan 2023 #25
I predict their justice system will win that marathon by many months. Justice matters. Jan 2023 #41
Yes!!! Repeal the rich fascist tax cut and end banksters running the Fed. Nt yaesu Jan 2023 #30
+1... myohmy2 Jan 2023 #34
Sanders is right. Trying to cut social security and affordable health care are not winning Martin68 Jan 2023 #42
That's what I believe as well Martin Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #49
Absolutely, We can never let our guard down. those wolves are always circling the flock to see what Martin68 Jan 2023 #50
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