General Discussion

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)

63. Once again you dodge the main points.

Mon Jan 9, 2023, 07:00 PM

Jan 2023

The so-called advice you offered to Democrats for "messaging" is based on a series of falsehoods, and we were to embrace it (which we won't) we be sunk electorally as a party.

None of the positive examples of progressive social policies has been an achievement of liberal Democrats or liberal social Democrats in Europe.

Not a bit of it is "Democratic Socialism." People are not that stupid.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

91 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Democratic Messaging [View all] Pototan Jan 2023 OP

Good idea. Hang it on all repubs. HUAJIAO Jan 2023 #1

Do MAGATs even know what morality means? And they love police. live love laugh Jan 2023 #2

Please keep in mind that elections are won on the margins Pototan Jan 2023 #4

True. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #6

Yeah, that Hakeem Jeffries is a real schlub. And Joe Biden, whoo! Lame-o! Don't even get me started Hekate Jan 2023 #3

Oh, come on. Let the poster express his/her opinion, Why belittle them? question everything Jan 2023 #5

The poster has a lot of company in hand-wringing just lately. I'm expressing my opinion that... Hekate Jan 2023 #12

Don't you recognize a low-post troll bashing Dems... brush Jan 2023 #14

You're 100% wrong Pototan Jan 2023 #22

And I'm offended by the Dem bashing. brush Jan 2023 #38

there's a difference between "Bashing" nad constructive criticism Pototan Jan 2023 #42

Hundreds of positives happened. We did good in the mid-terms.... brush Jan 2023 #43

Ya, we did real well Pototan Jan 2023 #46

One trick pony. brush Jan 2023 #47

In Massachusetts we have more than a one trick pony Pototan Jan 2023 #49

Thank you for expressing your opinion despite being picked at Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #76

Charlie Baker Celerity Jan 2023 #68

Charlie's out Pototan Jan 2023 #79

I didn't see a 'currently sitting' qualifier Celerity Jan 2023 #80

It's simple Pototan Jan 2023 #81

Splitting hairs as up until a few days ago Baker was the sitting governor, plus he had high approval Celerity Jan 2023 #82

You obviously don't know Massachusetts politics Pototan Jan 2023 #88

Welcome to DU, you are very new here so I will overlook the condescending nature of that reply Celerity Jan 2023 #89

Charkie Baker is a Republican like Joe Manchin is a Democrat Pototan Jan 2023 #90

At least "milquetoast" "spineless" and "complacent" aren't so popular for bashing Democrats betsuni Jan 2023 #23

I think you may have missed my point Pototan Jan 2023 #28

You're right, I don't understand your point. betsuni Jan 2023 #30

It's not just about defining our side Pototan Jan 2023 #32

You're Wrong DET Jan 2023 #33

Republicans know that Democrats stand for government. They just hate the government. betsuni Jan 2023 #44

Yes, But... DET Jan 2023 #48

Agree Fetterman is great, not beholden to any populist SuperPACs who want him to betsuni Jan 2023 #50

None of the countries in Scandinavia have "Democratic Socialist" regiemes. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #57

"Timid" is the new "spineless." betsuni Jan 2023 #51

the opposite of Timid is Aggressive, not spineless Pototan Jan 2023 #58

Blame Democrats! "We"? betsuni Jan 2023 #65

"cerebral" treestar Jan 2023 #73

Again, we will not convince Republicans Pototan Jan 2023 #91

He/she is a newbie, hence low post. Cut them some slack. Please question everything Jan 2023 #26

Thanks for your support Pototan Jan 2023 #34

... betsuni Jan 2023 #67

Let Hekate Express her Opinion. Cha Jan 2023 #54

+1. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #77

Sometimes a little sarcsm is necessary Progressive dog Jan 2023 #9

Why did we lose the House? Pototan Jan 2023 #27

If those people are not capable of thought Progressive dog Jan 2023 #39

+1 betsuni Jan 2023 #45

We lost due to gerrymandering LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #55

There are 18 Republican Congressmen from Biden districts Pototan Jan 2023 #56

"I'm as strong a Democrat as there is." betsuni Jan 2023 #66

If, as you say: "The other side wins people's votes by just using the socialist label" Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #59

Let me explain Pototan Jan 2023 #60

So the "message" you have for the Democratic Party is to embrace duplicity? Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #61

Ya, they're not stupid Pototan Jan 2023 #62

Once again you dodge the main points. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #63

Just one survey, there are more with about the same rankings. KS Toronado Jan 2023 #64

This list represents mendacity of the worst kind. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #69

" confuse liberal social democracy with socialism." KS Toronado Jan 2023 #70

One has an advanced capitalist economic system allied to a liberal democratic political structure Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #71

Was hoping with Jeffries the whining about leadership might ease up, all that betsuni Jan 2023 #10

Your snarky response doesn't address the messaging issue luv2fly Jan 2023 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #24

I keep wondering about that phrase. "Morality Police." enough Jan 2023 #7

Messaging is overrated. The people that support him support JI7 Jan 2023 #8

Please read reply 4 Pototan Jan 2023 #13

Seems like they messaged the hell mcar Jan 2023 #15

With friends like this...it is a miracle Democrat ever win...everyone thinks they are an expert. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #18

And they always thinks Dems are bad, wrong, mcar Jan 2023 #29

This board has gotten worse. newdayneeded Jan 2023 #35

You'd be surprised at how may experts lift ideas from here. Cetacea Jan 2023 #52

Biden did the messaging on Democracy Pototan Jan 2023 #20

President Biden has done a fantastic job in his message for months now ..... LenaBaby61 Jan 2023 #25

Good Idea DET Jan 2023 #16

Do you? Well I think the 'slogan' would be meaningless to those on the right... Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #19

Please read reply 4 Pototan Jan 2023 #21

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #78

like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #17

Call it the governor's gestapo. Efilroft Sul Jan 2023 #31

Answer: we don't attack people to make the blogosphere feel good brooklynite Jan 2023 #36

why define him now Pototan Jan 2023 #37

We defined Trump very well in 2016... brooklynite Jan 2023 #40

We defined him when it was too late Pototan Jan 2023 #41

Gee inthewind21 Jan 2023 #75

I don't there are as many of these people as you think... electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #84

+1 betsuni Jan 2023 #85

He ran on how well he handled Covid-with help from God no less. Crickets. Cetacea Jan 2023 #53

The Democrats are not at fault because the media treestar Jan 2023 #72

IMO, We need to head up to 30,000 feet with our messaging. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2023 #74

What is most need is a smarter voting public that doesn't respond to "messaging" Silent3 Jan 2023 #83

+1 betsuni Jan 2023 #86

There have been times in the past I think Dem's messaging hasn't been as strong as I thot it.... electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #87