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Just_Vote_Dem

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18. But the commentary IS the important thing

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:54 AM

Jan 2023

The people providing the commentary know that most people don't have the time or the inclination to pore over all of the data, so a narrative is given. And generally it is manipulated by those who don't have the best interest of the majority of Americans.

Why can't we just admit that a majority of media is owned by right-wing interests who create a narrative that is hurtful to most people, instead of blaming those who are basically assaulted daily with nonsense in order to keep them "in line"? I don't like blaming victims.

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Nate Silver and FiveThirtyEight Are on ABC's Chopping Block [View all] DestinyIsles Jan 2023 OP

They are wonderful, actually. And will likely have no trouble finding another home. ColinC Jan 2023 #1

I disagree Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #7

It is a little odd to me. Happy Hoosier Jan 2023 #22

I disagree...Silver allowed the right wing to put fake poll out and acted like they were real. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #33

Seems to.me that NPR lead the "Red Wave" was inevitable narrative The_Casual_Observer Jan 2023 #2

Mara Liasson has always been a right side hack.....in my humble opinion. Years ago when she a kennedy Jan 2023 #9

A pain in the ass that is shown too much respect. Her unfounded The_Casual_Observer Jan 2023 #12

I was unfamiliar with Mara Liasson, so looked her up- MerryBlooms Jan 2023 #32

If you are unfamiliar with Mara you are unfamiliar with the The_Casual_Observer Jan 2023 #49

Called it in real time. It was obvious. onecaliberal Jan 2023 #3

Hell, even I saw that the red wave was not materializing. Sky Jewels Jan 2023 #4

I saw it too and was ridiculed here and even my son gave me a hard time...his first words to Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #34

Haha, restraint can be tricky. Sky Jewels Jan 2023 #46

It's not as simple as Silver being a right wing tool Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #5

The only Senate seat that was off was NV, and even in that the Republican was barely leading Polybius Jan 2023 #6

They didn't predict it Sympthsical Jan 2023 #10

A red wave was predicted...because of deliberate right wing bullshit polls. It didn't happen and Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #37

Oh please there was no red wave and you posted that there would be...we gained a Senate seat! Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #35

I think you misunderstood me Polybius Jan 2023 #47

Good analysis, thanks n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2023 #14

He is like 99% of the other people who break into the top echelon of corporate media Cosmocat Jan 2023 #16

The polls were not that far off. former9thward Jan 2023 #8

I have no idea where this "The polls were super wrong" narrative is coming from Sympthsical Jan 2023 #11

Because for weeks they predicted a huge red wave that never happened Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2023 #15

The media and the data are not the same things Sympthsical Jan 2023 #17

But the commentary IS the important thing Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2023 #18

But that's not what people are saying Sympthsical Jan 2023 #21

Preach it! inthewind21 Jan 2023 #50

"more than they were paying attention to the data and the facts." BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #23

They also used YouGov and Morning Consult Sympthsical Jan 2023 #24

In response BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #27

You explained it a lot better than me, thanks! Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2023 #28

You are welcome and that December DU OP on this 538 poll bias issue BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #29

Very nice. scipan Jan 2023 #30

Thank you BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #31

Races Called Correctly per FiveThirtyEight: W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #53

This is an extremely dishonest use of statistics Sympthsical Jan 2023 #55

LOL! W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #56

The data was the basis for the predictions...so please, take another look. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #38

.it was the accompanying commentary that was relentlessly pushing The_Casual_Observer Jan 2023 #13

+1, thier analysis of the data was slanted uponit7771 Jan 2023 #26

The polls were completely off there was no red wave and only three times in history have we Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #36

Good BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #19

Nate Silver is a right wing tool now. LOL Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #20

Real Clear Politics is now funded by the righties. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #39

Interesting. But jeez they just take numbers and crunch. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #40

He was either terribly incompetent or worse for going with RW fake pollsters in aggregates. themaguffin Jan 2023 #25

Hell it took us a while... Why would he be expected to Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #41

Not instant, it's his stubborn stance when known. I'm not a Nate hater. I just think that was themaguffin Jan 2023 #44

Somehow ABC and 538 are affiliated. Haven't looked up how. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #48

Hmmm. Seems pretty forthright to me Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #45

They have proof that Nate Silver Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #42

Polls are always a gamble. ificandream Jan 2023 #43

In other news inthewind21 Jan 2023 #51

Good for them. I don't hold that much weight in them. ificandream Jan 2023 #52

Many of us ignore polls - I can't help it, I've lived through too many elections FakeNoose Jan 2023 #54