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33. The Third Way is predictable as mud, aren't they?

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:25 AM

Nov 2012

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This thread would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetically sad that DU has come to this. Even now, hours after a victory, the Third Way Brigade will not relent. They need to spew vitriol. They need to shoot down and mock any hope of real liberalism and spew the lie that more middle-class sucking, right-wing policy is the only option we face.

The same, familiar names. The same, tired, arguments. The same nasty right-wing rhetoric, naysaying, and mocking of those who dare to seek representation.

Give this ugly, corporate script exactly the attention it deserves. Now is the time for Democrats to raise our voices together and let Washington know that we expect representation.

No Grand Bargain, ever again.

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Dear Obama - the past year many of us worked our asses off to help get you re-elected.... [View all] LynneSin Nov 2012 OP

Agreed jollyreaper2112 Nov 2012 #1

Bravo! ohiosmith Nov 2012 #2

+1 Snotcicles Nov 2012 #3

Of course we all need to realize the limitations of the Presidency groundloop Nov 2012 #4

Most of the power was unused in the first term BlueStreak Nov 2012 #6

Excellent analysis. bvar22 Nov 2012 #18

I agree it will look great okieinpain Nov 2012 #59

you're right, the president is powerless. the democrats have the presidency & the senate, but HiPointDem Nov 2012 #62

Unions understand the need to act on principle for hte long term good BlueStreak Nov 2012 #73

shoulda worked a little bit harder to give him a Congress hfojvt Nov 2012 #5

THANK YOU!!! uGH...the OP's post annoys me. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #9

Republicans lost seats in Congress. They are in no position to call the shots. We have sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #19

Exactly. nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #20

The bat shit crazy wing (tea baggers) do not care, PERIOD krawhitham Nov 2012 #42

The worst of them just got thrown out of Congress. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #45

Ummm.... llmart Nov 2012 #72

The Republicans still have a commanding majority in the House Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #90

Well Dinos can be dealt with by the Party Leadership. They were not in the past because sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #91

I hear what you're saying, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #92

I can't agree more Glitterati Nov 2012 #7

What are you talking about? The house is ruled by the GOP. vaberella Nov 2012 #8

Trust me there are ways to make this happen LynneSin Nov 2012 #11

Yeah you have to give something to get something krawhitham Nov 2012 #43

Yeah, give and take...which means compromising. End of story. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #56

And the House was firmly Democratic when Reagan claimed his Mandate... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #12

Yeah...but the problem with this is that Dems are well known to compromise. vaberella Nov 2012 #58

being "well known to compromise" doesn't mean you *have to* compromise, it just means you do. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #63

And then we enter a circular conversation. vaberella Nov 2012 #85

"getting things done" is not always a virtue. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #86

The case of the unwanted Mandate..... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #10

The Republican agenda is to do absolutely nothing. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #14

Exactly. It's awkward trying to convince the country rudycantfail Nov 2012 #55

And please tell me how he can just ignore the House nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #13

Didn't Clinton have the same problem? If so arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #15

No, not THAT playbook. bvar22 Nov 2012 #16

In his second term... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #17

He needs the GOP House to approve bills. Remember? Except for some exec. order things Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #21

When will our winning actually mean something? Why do we work so hard to win when sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22

We have MORE power now than last 4 yrs. But it's not our fault that the House gets a vote. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #23

Oh please, this is getting really tired. The president has enormous power. I can assure you if sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24

No. The Senate/Harry Reid stopped PLENTY of bills from passing these past 4 years. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #25

Well, your plea might be valid if we had an imperial presidency. You do know.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #26

+1 treestar Nov 2012 #27

Exactly. Whatever happened to lobbying Congress? Congress is "The People's House". Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #32

Um, what? MFrohike Nov 2012 #44

Jill, is that you? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #46

A protip for you, good sir (or madam) MFrohike Nov 2012 #51

Excellent post, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #47

The voters do, not OWS treestar Nov 2012 #67

I think we had a half year in civics treestar Nov 2012 #66

How predictable. woo me with science Nov 2012 #29

And how many votes did that liberal lioness, Jill Stein, get? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #30

Such nastiness, during what should be a time of joy. woo me with science Nov 2012 #35

The "poison" was already here, long before I arrived. And you still didn't answer the question. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #40

How many do you expect when she is shut out of the media, debates, etc.? Bonobo Nov 2012 #52

I heard her on NPR, and soon learned why she was "shut out". No cognitive problems here. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #57

I guess all 3rd party candidates have valid reasons for being shut out, huh? nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #60

I'm a Democrat. I could give a fuck about 3rd parties. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #74

You ducked the question because you lost the argument. Bonobo Nov 2012 #75

Your "question" was nonsensical as is this entire exchange. I just followed your lead. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #78

There were 14 people running for President treestar Nov 2012 #68

You can't get things passed if you don't put it out there and TRY! LynneSin Nov 2012 #34

We're all hoping he can get things done. However, he still faces the same Congressional Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #39

Well then here's a thought... MessiahRp Nov 2012 #61

Good plan treestar Nov 2012 #70

Exactly. And that is what we are here for. And we will be doing what it is our duty to do sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #50

The whole idea is that representatives cannot be forced to vote treestar Nov 2012 #69

A less RW congress might help CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #28

Well said! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #31

The Third Way is predictable as mud, aren't they? woo me with science Nov 2012 #33

i don't think he ever catered to Republicans because of re-election, he came out in support of same JI7 Nov 2012 #36

AND PLEASE... FieryLocks Nov 2012 #37

It would be wonderful if Obama listened to his liberal base quinnox Nov 2012 #38

BS, sorry it is krawhitham Nov 2012 #41

Great response DemocratsForProgress Nov 2012 #54

Oh, please. The obverse also holds true. The President now holds almost coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #65

Hear hear for the post and the sentiment therein: woo me with science Nov 2012 #48

That is why this "fiscal cliff" issue is so important. kentuck Nov 2012 #49

I don't want him to have to give in again to the GOP either, but... CheapShotArtist Nov 2012 #53

The trick is to try some proposals so popular, GOP will shoot themselves in foot if they oppose yurbud Nov 2012 #79

I hope he continues doing what he's been doing. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #64

Make the grand bargain with the GOP Beowulf Nov 2012 #71

Obama has the capitol, the backing of the people and the ability Autumn Nov 2012 #76

You realize the repugs control the House michigandem58 Nov 2012 #77

OMG Really???!!!! LynneSin Nov 2012 #80

"PBO will have to cater" argiel1234 Nov 2012 #83

its pretty disgusting argiel1234 Nov 2012 #81

Or assume that I don't know how a bill is passed LynneSin Nov 2012 #82

Kick woo me with science Nov 2012 #84

To those of you who have shot down what I've said please read LynneSin Nov 2012 #87

kr. as far as i'm concerned, the folks saying it's impossible because of the bad bad HiPointDem Nov 2012 #89

Dear PRESIDENT Obama, progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #88