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Bettie

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135. They went to prison because they broke the cardinal rule:

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:53 AM

Jan 2023

they screwed over other wealthy white people.

If they had stuck to fleecing the government or the people who don't matter (that's most of us), they'd be fine.

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A challenge for Garland critics. [View all] bigtree Jan 2023 OP

Did Michael Cohen go to jail on the same evidence? dem4decades Jan 2023 #1

I would love to believe Cohen bigtree Jan 2023 #2

Cohen has been transparent, he did Trump's bidding, at Trump's request. dem4decades Jan 2023 #6

I believe Cohen was convicted for tax issues, the Stormy issue just brought it to light Lettuce Be Jan 2023 #5

I thought he was sent to jail for campaign finance law. They did not declare dem4decades Jan 2023 #8

Exactly, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #25

Tax evasion and campaign-finance violations among a few others . Autumn Jan 2023 #47

no, Cohen paid the money, Trump allegedly paid him back. Hamlette Jan 2023 #81

It will all come together, any year now. Sneederbunk Jan 2023 #3

why should I believe it won't? bigtree Jan 2023 #7

Because people like Trump don't face consequences Marius25 Jan 2023 #11

you mean like the FBI who just indicted one of their own top prosecutors? bigtree Jan 2023 #14

You are aware that McGonigal's ex-girl friend turned him in? gab13by13 Jan 2023 #18

3 years ago, correct? That's some justice. dem4decades Jan 2023 #21

My point was, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #27

Would not have happened without his EX outing him WA-03 Democrat Jan 2023 #51

that's a lucky break treestar Jan 2023 #77

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straw man. No one said that you can't criticize treestar Jan 2023 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #108

with what? treestar Jan 2023 #141

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A prosecutor isn't Trump or members of Congress Marius25 Jan 2023 #20

not exactly the image of a FBI overly concerned with protecting institutions bigtree Jan 2023 #32

Trump inthewind21 Jan 2023 #115

Who do you think committed that fraud? Marius25 Jan 2023 #137

McGonigal was a prosecutor? dpibel Jan 2023 #86

because that would make what difference to my point? bigtree Jan 2023 #88

You are the person demanding dpibel Jan 2023 #103

Bernie Madoff went to jail treestar Jan 2023 #74

Wealthy on wealthy crime dpibel Jan 2023 #87

They went to prison because they broke the cardinal rule: Bettie Jan 2023 #135

Specifically - Trump has been a criminal all of his life and has never once been charged with a Maraya1969 Jan 2023 #16

I agree. Remember all those money laundering rumors? dem4decades Jan 2023 #23

LOL spot on! Emile Jan 2023 #9

After we're all dead. dem4decades Jan 2023 #10

You could try reading the responses to this thread iemanja Jan 2023 #44

Does this challenge also apply to Garland critics who aren't criticizing Garland for failing to RockRaven Jan 2023 #4

pick one bigtree Jan 2023 #12

Obstruction of justice in repeated refusal to return the MAL docs... brush Jan 2023 #17

Yup, you get it. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #28

but why should the investigation be halted just to get what you say is an easy conviction bigtree Jan 2023 #29

I gave you what you asked for. Don't move the goal post. brush Jan 2023 #46

what's the goal post? Isn't it conviction bigtree Jan 2023 #53

If you don't think a conviction from obvious obstruction of justice... brush Jan 2023 #60

that's not what I said at all bigtree Jan 2023 #65

Still moving the goal posts. All those docs stolen by trump... brush Jan 2023 #68

no they are not all evidence of a crime, certainly not just possessing them bigtree Jan 2023 #71

I didn't mention espionage. You did as you slyly tried to moved the goal post again. brush Jan 2023 #75

right, you didn't. You need to address that bigtree Jan 2023 #79

Nice try. Doesn't fly though as other charges can always be pursued. brush Jan 2023 #80

so they should do the prosecution piecemeal? bigtree Jan 2023 #82

Please proceed with this, but I'm done. brush Jan 2023 #83

from where I stand bigtree Jan 2023 #84

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you're barking up the wrong tree bigtree Jan 2023 #56

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what is this about? bigtree Jan 2023 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #63

it's not excuse making. I present FACTS about state the investigation bigtree Jan 2023 #66

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actually they won't notice bigtree Jan 2023 #72

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this discussion isn't about friendship bigtree Jan 2023 #91

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but this discussion isn't about friendship. bigtree Jan 2023 #97

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one more post bigtree Jan 2023 #110

This isn't the first time you've characterized disagreement with you, or lack of Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #114

since I wasn't talking with you bigtree Jan 2023 #119

You wrote an OP on a discussion board. I guess discussing on a discussion Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #120

are you okay? bigtree Jan 2023 #124

I'm fine. Is that angst you're communicating? Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #126

a little bigtree Jan 2023 #127

You too! Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #128

So inthewind21 Jan 2023 #118

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The January 6th Report answered your question liberalmediaaddict Jan 2023 #13

isn't that what the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers cases in court right now are about? bigtree Jan 2023 #22

Members were just found guilty of seditious conspiracy liberalmediaaddict Jan 2023 #67

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Your explanation is asking me to believe that Garland gab13by13 Jan 2023 #15

I'm impressed. Thank you. dem4decades Jan 2023 #19

why should Garland move on the documents case before all of the documents are accounted for? bigtree Jan 2023 #24

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zero evidence they're not proceeding bigtree Jan 2023 #36

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"..They have enough to get started,..." 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 THIS !!! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #38

I have listened to numerous former prosecutors, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #35

you won't find many who think DOJ should just shut down the docs investigation bigtree Jan 2023 #45

Why do you believe this? dpibel Jan 2023 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #49

+1, this is a good summation and there are a list crimes Mueller outlined with a high probability .. uponit7771 Jan 2023 #33

5 years is up for Garland. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #42

Maybe you should tell the investigators who opened a grand jury that they're wasting time AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #48

Personal attack, nice touch. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #100

How did I attack you? AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #105

Meanwhile the Republicans are free to spew their lies day in and day out accusing Democrats of Autumn Jan 2023 #55

You are still posting the same falsehoods. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #139

Thank you mcar Jan 2023 #26

+1 ancianita Jan 2023 #104

The House report for one iemanja Jan 2023 #31

do you know the state of what DOJ considers enough to indict and convict? bigtree Jan 2023 #52

If you don't consider that reasonable evidence iemanja Jan 2023 #62

not excuses, facts. bigtree Jan 2023 #70

and you do know? How is that? iemanja Jan 2023 #73

of course it's a roadmap bigtree Jan 2023 #78

***Michelle Obama***, "...my husband would be in somebody's jail by now." uponit7771 Jan 2023 #40

+1 Emile Jan 2023 #43

+1 Bettie Jan 2023 #134

Barr threw Trump Big Shots in jail licketty split GreenWave Jan 2023 #54

August 2018 for Manafort bigtree Jan 2023 #59

So you think that we should have an AG like Barr? AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #64

Right this sounds like a divisive group attack. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #58

K&R betsuni Jan 2023 #89

The problem with this exercise is they still do not know of any exculpatory evidence Bev54 Jan 2023 #90

I'm trying to get that across bigtree Jan 2023 #96

I am not sure you will change their minds, they seem very closed and not Bev54 Jan 2023 #98

Tell it to Rachel Maddow. I'm sure the episode will be posted when it's available Autumn Jan 2023 #113

I watched Rachel and she was talking about SDNY Bev54 Jan 2023 #121

The year is 2033 edhopper Jan 2023 #92

Yeah, well... It's not a Law & Order episode!!!!!11!!2 Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #116

The Evidence is Already Overwhelming - Courage Seems to be the Problem. waterwatcher123 Jan 2023 #94

+1000 Emile Jan 2023 #95

what evidence do you have that 'courage' is lacking? bigtree Jan 2023 #99

Read Elie Honig's new book when it comes out. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #106

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President Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes republianmushroom Jan 2023 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #130

I don't want be rude, but I'm done here. It was certainly an effort, folks brought their best case bigtree Jan 2023 #109

I feel ya, bigtree. I daresay you kinda asked for this. Nevertheless, ancianita Jan 2023 #117

I totally did bigtree Jan 2023 #123

It is hard for me to pass judgement Jarqui Jan 2023 #111

Thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #112

Merrick Garland is not a Democrat. BWdem4life Jan 2023 #129

That is a stupid question, most people here are not prosecutors, they would not know where to begin Mr. Sparkle Jan 2023 #132

This is a red herring of course Orrex Jan 2023 #133

Not a lot of alternatives proposed by Garland critics... Chakaconcarne Jan 2023 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #138

Your challenge is based on the premise the the DoJ deserves the benefit of the doubt Silent3 Jan 2023 #140