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gtar100

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12. A lot of those reasons are why progressives have issues with Obama, not necessarily conservatives.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

I've never heard conservatives lament about keeping Gitmo open (worried about closing it, yes; but not any concern for the people there or the possibility of injustice). Their worry about the use of drones in the Middle East is that it isn't enough...if they even are aware of it. And no complaints about the oppressive police state because that is targeted mainly against progressive movements. Discussions of right-wing violence are quickly hushed.

Your point on the deficit and taxes is about as close as it gets to the conservative heart and mind. But they are driven by slogans like "tax and spend liberals" and shit like that. If they were honest about the deficit and US debt, blame would include republican's never-say-no policy to defense spending and the amount of unnecessary money spent on corporate subsidies that benefits nobody but the recipient. But they don't. They focus on welfare programs instead.

You make a lot of good points on issues with the Obama administration, but they just aren't the reasons that I've heard conservatives give for not wanting him as president. But your last paragraph I'd say is pretty spot-on based on some conversations I've had. They really did believe he would be moderate, even after he went all tea-party on them.

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I'm not surprised a bit quinnox Nov 2012 #1
It's just that EVERYTHING about Romney exuded the predator class, predator capitalism. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #4
As long as it was a white raptor nadine_mn Nov 2012 #7
Yeah, based on what little I know of the demographics of this last race and the demographics... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #10
Yeah, my grandparents were racists, too tavalon Nov 2012 #16
I wish I could agree with you but I just can't tpsbmam Nov 2012 #21
I hope I'm right about this tavalon Nov 2012 #22
It does seem incredibly intransigent..... tpsbmam Nov 2012 #30
I agree. EC Nov 2012 #2
Well the important thing is K-Matt Nov 2012 #3
I don't. ananda Nov 2012 #5
Hunh! You know, at first you lost me but then you wrote that sentence about... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #11
A lot of those reasons are why progressives have issues with Obama, not necessarily conservatives. gtar100 Nov 2012 #12
I didn't believe that Bush would be so bad since he was such tavalon Nov 2012 #17
Wow. Great post and agreed 110%. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #32
Me too. Good writing. It really is. eom uppityperson Nov 2012 #6
Sadly, I think there was a ton of racism in this election tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #8
Well, keep in mind that many have been brainwashed... pointsoflight Nov 2012 #9
I really do not get it, either. Scares me witless... Rhiannon12866 Nov 2012 #13
The economy had a lot to do with it former-republican Nov 2012 #14
Some really good points in this thread... PoiBoy Nov 2012 #15
Who are we kidding? Many of those who voted for Romney held their noses while doing so out of coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #18
Republicans need an intervention-- felix_numinous Nov 2012 #19
my mom votes gop, even tho it basically stands against almost everything believes in... KG Nov 2012 #20
honestly, it's the prefect example of why I do not have faith in Humanity stuntcat Nov 2012 #23
believe me there are NOT tens of millions of them argiel1234 Nov 2012 #24
I think Romney's constant flip-flopping was a deliberate strategy JBoy Nov 2012 #25
You are expressing what causes me great consternation as well n/t Mira Nov 2012 #26
Also... kentuck Nov 2012 #27
a lot of them didn't vote for romney- they voted against Obama. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #28
I know. They're nuts. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #29
Low Information Voters Agony Nov 2012 #31
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