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gab13by13

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13. Your post is 100% true.

Wed Feb 1, 2023, 09:32 AM

Feb 2023

My gripe is the same gripe that Nicolle Wallace asks every day, why did DOJ wait so long to go after Trump and his inner circle?

The evidence is there to support this claim. No, DOJ doesn't leak, but we find out don't we? We found out right away what Jack Smith was doing, who and what he was subpoenaing.

Your post is true, it takes at least 3 1/2 years to get Trump before a jury which puts a Trump trial into 2026. Democrats had better win the presidency in 2024 and 2028.

Trump's delay strategy doesn't have as much of an effect in state prosecutions. Go get em Faani, Letitia, Alvin, and E. Jean Carroll.

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I gotta wonder if Garland is hoping tRump will pass away or be diagnosed with dementia. [View all] Augiedog Feb 2023 OP

When Garland punted to some back bencher it was clear the fix was in. Blues Heron Feb 2023 #1

Jack Smith is a back bencher? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #5

I do not agree with the sentiments of this thread, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #7

It was noth about the capacity of DOJ to handle things. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #23

And, boy, did it sure stop all of those things! W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #33

DU doesn't count. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #52

Jack 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2023 #20

An Essay on Criticism bigtree Feb 2023 #30

Jack Smith was supposed to come in from The Hague & start smiting moneychangers in the Temple? Hekate Feb 2023 #55

Mahalo, Hekae.. For explaining Cha Feb 2023 #59

There are days (or in this case, nights) that really make you wonder... Hekate Feb 2023 #60

Yes, Great timing Cha Feb 2023 #68

They proceed with caution bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #2

I knew a guy that was so cautious, he never got anywhere. dem4decades Feb 2023 #8

Hey, now! These things take time! Silent3 Feb 2023 #3

... BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #4

LOL, lot of i's to dot and t's to cross Emile Feb 2023 #6

Must be careful gab13by13 Feb 2023 #11

His need to show impartiality is to the nation and its future. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #18

The nation, be specific gab13by13 Feb 2023 #19

The nation in historical sense. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #22

Yes but democracy is expendable triron Feb 2023 #80

Huh? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #81

I know tisis supposed to be sarcasm, but tell me: Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #10

Only took days to arrest 5 policemen in Memphis. Emile Feb 2023 #12

How many ex-presidents of the United States have ever been arrested? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #16

Trump is not the only subject of issue. PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #27

The poster I replied to made Trump THE subject. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #31

I would start with the GOP members of Congress that requested pardons from Trump PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #36

I am struck by the phrase "crimes that eluded full recognition and punishment" Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #38

How is this for a list? PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #39

Not very impressive at all. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #42

Your work is impressive as is your spin. PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #43

From your initial post (Reply 27): Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #46

Your post is 100% true. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #13

No, my sarcasm does not "presume your significant awareness of all of the above" Silent3 Feb 2023 #21

Your sarcasm did not address the historical context of denying DOJ your benefit of doubt. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #25

Did Nixon go to jail? Dig Agnew go to jail? Silent3 Feb 2023 #32

Let's forget for a moment that Nixon received a presidential pardon and was never a target of DOJ. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #37

A war crime doesn't *have to be* handled by the International Court... Silent3 Feb 2023 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #47

Ok, if you insist. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #50

I totally reject your position on where the burden of proof lies here Silent3 Feb 2023 #74

Misplacing the burden of proof is the theme I see throughout your posts. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #76

Great court decisions like granting the presidency to Bush over Gore? Silent3 Feb 2023 #78

Let me repeat something you must have missed completely: Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #79

I didn't miss anything, I just didn't care Silent3 Feb 2023 #82

Well, color me shocked! Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #83

What can a list of court decisions prove about cases that don't even end up in court? Silent3 Feb 2023 #84

Seriously, what do the non-cases that don't end up in court prove about justice? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #85

Don't you get the all the anxiety about Trump being brought to justice... Silent3 Feb 2023 #86

I get all the anxiety allright! Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #88

"What I don't get is the insistence that anxiety drives justice." Silent3 Feb 2023 #89

When yo fail to define justice in any meaningful way, and then claim anxiety over something Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #90

What kind of "meaningful way" are you looking for? Silent3 Feb 2023 #91

Talking about justice without defining what it means to you is pretty ridiculous on its face. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #92

Unless it needs to be a deeply technical discussion (hint: no it doesn't)... Silent3 Feb 2023 #93

There IS a common meaning of the idea of justice Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #94

"FOLLOWING THE RULE OF LAW WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOR." Silent3 Feb 2023 #95

I see, you are now willing to go along with the universally accepted definition for the rule of law, Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #96

So, whatever the DoJ has decided to prosecute (or not) in the past... Silent3 Feb 2023 #97

Bingo! You are slowly getting there. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #98

So, Al Capone's involvement with the St. Valentine's Day Massacre is a "non-event"... Silent3 Feb 2023 #99

I can't believe it, you're right again! Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #100

So, if getting Al Capone on taxes didn't work out.... Silent3 Feb 2023 #101

I thought we covered this before. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #102

Yes, we covered this before, and you've now made the same ridiculous interpretation Silent3 Feb 2023 #103

All that is indeed evidence iemanja Feb 2023 #58

I agree. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #62

Give a gold star to Garland iemanja Feb 2023 #64

Ask Stewart Rhodes and Enrique Tarrio Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #67

The evidence for prosecuting Trump would be clear. iemanja Feb 2023 #57

The evidence is but the prerequisite for an indictment. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #61

But you yourself have shown that precedents do matter iemanja Feb 2023 #63

Context matters. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #65

None of the critics care about Garland's "performance or expertise" iemanja Feb 2023 #66

That's the problem, isn't it? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #69

Since when is it a citizen's job to praise administration officials? iemanja Feb 2023 #70

Since when is it a citizen's job to bash administration officials? Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #71

Criticism is not bashing. It's democracy iemanja Feb 2023 #72

Unfounded criticism that doesn't end is bashing. It's not democracy. And it's repugnant. Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #73

Yeah, we don't want to rush this. Lancero Feb 2023 #15

why would he specifically treestar Feb 2023 #9

OMG, that is the #1 consideration for an institutionalist. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #14

I don't see that E Jean Carroll's suit has anything to do with it treestar Feb 2023 #24

Yawn... brooklynite Feb 2023 #17

Something's got to give. Keep this monstrous POS from running in 2024! Initech Feb 2023 #26

there are grand juries gathering evidence, taking depositions, questioning witnesses bigtree Feb 2023 #28

It would make his job much easier for sure and also boost the, "It's time to move on for the good jalan48 Feb 2023 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Feb 2023 #34

it's normally a disparaging term used to slur men or boys thought to have characteristics of women bigtree Feb 2023 #40

It's not a good strategy Mad_Machine76 Feb 2023 #35

He's not. brooklynite Feb 2023 #41

Hope is not a viable strategy. NT Patton French Feb 2023 #45

We can't hope away this problem. Initech Feb 2023 #48

Don't give him any ideas. He needs to be prosecuted and convicted. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #49

OMG.. that is fucking all. Cha Feb 2023 #51

It's a helluva thread, isn't it? Hekate Feb 2023 #53

lol. there are some rational Cha Feb 2023 #54

See my post re smiting moneychangers in the Temple of Law Hekate Feb 2023 #56

Wow we are really reaching to the bottom of the barrel Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #75

Lady justice with her scales and sword is blindfolded. Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #77

I don't take issue with the sentiment of your post at all. I agree with it. However, Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #87