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highplainsdem

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Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:18 AM Feb 2023

OpenAI finally admits they created a problem with ChatGPT, but they can't fix it [View all]

From Gizmodo: OpenAI’s New AI-Detector Isn’t Great at Detecting AI

https://gizmodo.com/open-ai-chatgpt-ai-text-detector-1850055005

OpenAI, the artificial intelligence company behind viral text-generator ChatGPT, has released a new AI tool intended to help manage the mess wrought by its previous creation. Unfortunately, it’s not very good.

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However, in OpenAI’s own tests, the tool only correctly identified generated text as “likely AI-written” about a quarter of the time. Moreover, about one in ten times, the classifier falsely lists human-made words as computer-generated, the company noted in a blog post.

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OpenAI admits that ChatGPT has thrown a complicating wrench into classrooms, newsrooms, and beyond—where the tool and others like it have stoked fears of rampant cheating, misleading info, and copyright violations. In response, the company now says it wants to help. “We recognize that identifying AI-written text has been an important point of discussion among educators, and equally important is recognizing the limits and impacts of AI generated text classifiers in the classroom,” the company said in its Tuesday blog. “While this resource is focused on educators, we expect our classifier and associated classifier tools to have an impact on journalists, mis/dis-information researchers, and other groups.”

But in its current form, this new detection tool probably still isn’t accurate enough to meaningfully address growing concern over AI-enabled plagiarism, academic dishonesty, and the propagation of misinformation. “Our classifier is not fully reliable,” the company wrote. “It should not be used as a primary decision-making tool.”

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Gizmodo also tested the new AI-detector and got dismal results. They point out OpenAI is in a race with itself, with each improvement making it harder to detect.

It was IMO criminally stupid and reckless of OpenAI to release ChatGPT, given the problems and disruptions it started causing immediately.

Any 10--year-old could have informed them that it would immediately be used for cheating in school.

And tossing software that will tempt employers to replace workers with free AI was the economic equivalent of lighting a match in a fireworks factory.

But at this point OpenAI sounds mainly concerned - though nowhere near as concerned as they should be if they were operating ethically - about education...but they want teachers to help bail them out.

From the blog post Gizmodo cited:

https://openai.com/blog/new-ai-classifier-for-indicating-ai-written-text/

We recognize that identifying AI-written text has been an important point of discussion among educators, and equally important is recognizing the limits and impacts of AI generated text classifiers in the classroom. We have developed a preliminary resource on the use of ChatGPT for educators, which outlines some of the uses and associated limitations and considerations. While this resource is focused on educators, we expect our classifier and associated classifier tools to have an impact on journalists, mis/dis-information researchers, and other groups.

We are engaging with educators in the US to learn what they are seeing in their classrooms and to discuss ChatGPT’s capabilities and limitations, and we will continue to broaden our outreach as we learn. These are important conversations to have as part of our mission is to deploy large language models safely, in direct contact with affected communities.

If you’re directly impacted by these issues (including but not limited to teachers, administrators, parents, students, and education service providers), please provide us with feedback using this form. Direct feedback on the preliminary resource is helpful, and we also welcome any resources that educators are developing or have found helpful (e.g., course guidelines, honor code and policy updates, interactive tools, AI literacy programs).
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Turing Tests performed by AI? old as dirt Feb 2023 #1
Jurassic Park Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #2
Exactly. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #8
One of the most predictable fuck ups in history. We are all going to meet this demon. Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #3
I agree. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #10
haven't any of these people watched any movies? TxGuitar Feb 2023 #14
They can't even identify what they generated dalton99a Feb 2023 #4
Another case of programmers doing something 'kewl' just because they can. eppur_se_muova Feb 2023 #5
The AI issues were known since the novel "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress." Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #6
Open the bombay doors HAL GusBob Feb 2023 #7
Well now he would need to open the Mumbai doors 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2023 #34
Doesn't make sense why people cheat treestar Feb 2023 #9
They're not looking that far ahead. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #16
Here's a novel idea... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #11
Very best thing they could do at this point. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #12
I don't understand this panic at all. hunter Feb 2023 #13
"Who the fuck cares?" People who want real art created by humans. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #15
I'm not cynical about art and artists at all. It's the world I live in. hunter Feb 2023 #23
I'm sorry your parents couldn't make a living from their writing and highplainsdem Feb 2023 #29
Here's a photo of a computer room in 1949: hunter Feb 2023 #46
Wow! secondwind Feb 2023 #19
Not sure I get it either. honest.abe Feb 2023 #26
Agreed. edisdead Feb 2023 #27
That was unsettling for those of us who had been on the internet some years. hunter Feb 2023 #28
As a hobby I build guitars. edisdead Feb 2023 #37
100% this. joshcryer Feb 2023 #54
If an AI is creating the best essays ThoughtCriminal Feb 2023 #17
+1, uponit7771 Feb 2023 #18
LOL! No one said AI is writing the best essays. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #21
Bring back the paper bluebooks! Reduce class sizes! hunter Feb 2023 #35
What a horrible thing for a professor to say. I'm sorry you ever highplainsdem Feb 2023 #39
I was a horrible student. An Art History professor once gave me an "F" as my final grade... hunter Feb 2023 #51
Actually, they have ThoughtCriminal Feb 2023 #41
Maybe occasionally, but not generally. And if that was the highplainsdem Feb 2023 #43
It got a C+ on an exam at the University of Minnesota law school iemanja Feb 2023 #20
It's done pretty well on business and medical school exams, too. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #22
I think the concern over this specific system is overstated XorXor Feb 2023 #24
Oh, how cute. AI defending itself. You know, Covid-19 would probably want AI highplainsdem Feb 2023 #31
Jobs have been getting replaced by machines since the beginning edisdead Feb 2023 #40
Oh yeah, could totally get it to defend COVID-19 XorXor Feb 2023 #53
K&R (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2023 #25
Why can't they just allow someone to enter text... W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #30
Yeah, students already have a workaround for this. honest.abe Feb 2023 #32
I was just reading Google's page on QuillBot for Chrome, highplainsdem Feb 2023 #36
Its going to be a challenge for teachers and professors but I do think they will figure it out. honest.abe Feb 2023 #38
AI has no trouble generating outlines, and I'm guessing it can be highplainsdem Feb 2023 #42
Yes ChatGPT can generate an outline but not sure about the rough draft. honest.abe Feb 2023 #44
All you'd have to do is tell ChatGPT to write a shorter version, highplainsdem Feb 2023 #48
Well perhaps.. but it makes the student work more. honest.abe Feb 2023 #49
Learns how to cheat more carefully, anyway. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #50
As the article in Gizmodo explains, this "detector" can't recognize text highplainsdem Feb 2023 #33
I know, but I'm referring to like an actual log of everything the AI has ever generated... W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #45
Yeah as a systems engineer I can tell you that would be impractical to store every generated text. honest.abe Feb 2023 #47
Some kind of hash of the initial inputs would be good enough. hunter Feb 2023 #52
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