General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: I gotta wonder if Garland is hoping tRump will pass away or be diagnosed with dementia. [View all]Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)While significant in themselves, the events you listed as precedents for your mistrust of Garland and/or DOJ have precious little or nothing to do with Garland and/or DOJ.
Civil War: DOJ did not exist at the time, and Edward Bates the AG during the war, had zero impact on it
Businessman's Plot: A single congressional committee was formed to investigate the plot. The various conclusions of the committee ranged from categorizing the evidence as unreliable to it being a hoax. There was no DOJ involvement in investigating the plot.
Watergate: Nixon resigned before articles of impeachment were issued and pardoned shortly thereafter, making DOJ's or AG's role in the investigation irrelevant before it had a chance to take place
Iran-Contra: 13 people were indicted in the case, including four members of Bush's cabinet and other high ranking officials, indicating a major prosecutorial victory.
Church Committee:As the name suggests, it was a congressional committee. They investigated CIA abuses. CIA was not, and is not now, part of DOJ. The only executive action that resulted from the Committee's report was Gerald Ford's Executive Order 11905 banning political assassinations.
Financial collapses: Not sure how such broad category can be viewed as a precedent for passing judgement on a single governmental department
2000 election By your own description, it was stolen by the Supreme Court. Unconfirmed accusations aside, how is this a reflection on DOJ?
Lies to support aggressive war in Iraq: Did those lies constitute violations of US laws? On whose authority?
Mueller's investigation: Was sabotaged by Trump's AG Barr, a uniquely partisan AG.
Fitzmas: reflects more on people with unreasonable expectations of DOJ than being a legitimate precedent for negatively judging DOJ.
1/6 is pending: A pending investigation being used as precedent for negatively judging that same pending investigation? That's funny.