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fightforfreedom

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14. The point I keep trying to make is being ignored by the defeatists.

Sat Feb 4, 2023, 12:42 PM

Feb 2023

I do not know exactly what Garland, Smith, Willis are going to do in the end. I choose to believe they will hold Trump and the coup plotters accountable. Willis has made it clear indictments are coming. We don't know who yet.

I can believe Trump and the coup plotters will be held accountable because all the investigations are moving forward, in some cases expanding. This is a fact.

Defeatists are ignoring this and saying it's over. Garland will indict no one. He will not indict Trump, none of the coup plotters. They are saying it's too late, they should have been indicted day one. They are ignoring the fact all the investigations are moving forward.

I think I will stick with my positive outlook which is much more realistic.

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I will no longer call naysayers, naysayers. I will now call them defeatists. [View all] fightforfreedom Feb 2023 OP

We need some people who keep expecting success no matter what. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1

given the state of this country anti stupid Feb 2023 #2

The point I keep trying to make is being ignored by the defeatists. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #14

You imply that no indictment will be a defeat Bobstandard Feb 2023 #20

In other words if one does not believe as you do republianmushroom Feb 2023 #37

Scientists call them negative thinkers, who risk being trapped Hortensis Feb 2023 #74

What do you call people who can't see the writing on the wall? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #3

Optimism has its boundaries. Firestorm49 Feb 2023 #4

No matter what anyone says "truth always wins" Butterflylady Feb 2023 #40

Going on a Democratic board and saying Democrats are doomed isn't just defeatism AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #5

Who says Dems are doomed? I must have missed that. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #10

+1 Emile Feb 2023 #27

Agreed for more than one reason housecat Feb 2023 #49

Correct. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #11

+1 Just A Box Of Rain Feb 2023 #16

Horseshit Magoo48 Feb 2023 #41

Well I guess you told me! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #42

I feel it's a brief, if pointed, summary of my interlocutory reservations relevant to your point. Magoo48 Feb 2023 #58

Well put. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #70

Yes, never giving Democrats the benefit of the doubt, ever, always assuming nefarious motives, betsuni Feb 2023 #85

Whether or not people cheer hard enough Sympthsical Feb 2023 #6

+1 CentralMass Feb 2023 #8

Why did you feel the need to start another thread instead of replying on the one you are so BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #7

No, go on, you know you want to say it... AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #43

Huh? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #47

That never stopped you from responding to my posts AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #48

Dude, no offense, but I have no idea who you are. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #50

Dude, no offense but I have no idea who you are AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #52

Lol, what can I say? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #69

I'm a naysayer when it comes to Kevin McCarthy's speakership nt Shermann Feb 2023 #9

Some are RW disruptors in my opinion. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #12

Not necessarily right wing AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #18

I would think just the opposite. Emile Feb 2023 #26

It's not about that, it's about taunting. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #28

Taunting us for wanting justice. Emile Feb 2023 #29

Yes. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #30

Taunting is calling a large group of democrats on a democratic message Emile Feb 2023 #33

I said many. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #34

And I'd say that some of the ones who stir up this argument day after day Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #35

Exactly! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #45

No, that other OP you refer to is someone's opinion. That person is simply Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #54

Post removed Post removed Feb 2023 #60

But you know, if someone decided to blindly trust our elected leaders but DIDN'T Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #63

Well written post. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #103

It's normal for people to disagree iemanja Feb 2023 #66

You are kinder than I am. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #67

Thank you Emile. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #38

That's just internet tactics 101 Sympthsical Feb 2023 #81

Wow! What a perfect description. I think I've seen that here. Recently, in fact! Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #83

I haven't really been active in the Garland threads Sympthsical Feb 2023 #86

It is quite weird. And so constant. And sometimes presented with Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #87

No, taunting you for having no idea how the justice system works AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #44

LOL. All I need is more patience right? Emile Feb 2023 #46

Who, in this and most other threads on this, is doing the taunting? And name calling? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #32

How dare you call me out on trashing the Biden Administration! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #55

Who, in this and most other threads on this, is doing the taunting. And name calling? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #56

Anyone who disagrees with you must be a RW distruptor iemanja Feb 2023 #51

Way to not read what I posted. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #57

Provide evidence of that iemanja Feb 2023 #61

Against the rules to name names. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #64

You didn't answer the question iemanja Feb 2023 #65

It serves the right by depressing enthusiasm for voting Democratic. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #73

It has NOTHING to do with voting Democratic iemanja Feb 2023 #75

The verbiage is so objectively weird Sympthsical Feb 2023 #84

I will continue and no amount of insults will stop me. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #88

You're the one who began this subthread with an insult iemanja Feb 2023 #89

What insult? Saying there are RW disruptors here? That's just a fact. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #91

Hit dogs bark AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #97

It's interesting when you say "some" and don't name names AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #102

Not everyone can afford rose colored glasses. Nt yaesu Feb 2023 #13

Defeatism is a pernicious tendency. Just A Box Of Rain Feb 2023 #15

Must be talking about Garland! Emile Feb 2023 #17

That's what I was thinking. lees1975 Feb 2023 #77

A lot of right wingers in this country are "revolutionary defeatists" Pete Ross Junior Feb 2023 #19

Also populists waiting for the alliance of left and right in a working class revolution. betsuni Feb 2023 #90

I recently came across a term that you might like Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #21

Thank you for this, I will be using it from now on. Bev54 Feb 2023 #24

Great term - thanks! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #25

I've always considered myself a glass half empty because Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #22

Lol. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #23

Right. Because it's so virtuous to insult allies whose opinions differ from yours. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #31

Boom. nt BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #39

People who declare, as a fact, Garland will do nothing, while all the investigations move forward. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #92

Keep it up. Because that shit isn't going to stir itself. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #93

There is nothing wrong with my post, it's the truth. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #94

Stir, stir, stir.. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #95

Fact, fact, fact. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #98

Have you contacted Websters to inform them you have made the change? 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2023 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2023 #53

+1 Emile Feb 2023 #59

Right. Because people have to think like you. I call people who do that authoritarians. Autumn Feb 2023 #62

Fortunately For America & the Planet Cha Feb 2023 #68

To all the naysayers: We got that balloon! old as dirt Feb 2023 #71

What should I call those consumed by blind optimism? BannonsLiver Feb 2023 #72

:) When's the last time you saw one of those, though? Hortensis Feb 2023 #78

When's the last time you saw one of those, though? BannonsLiver Feb 2023 #79

Blind optimism? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #80

In order to believe nothing is happening they have to ignore the news AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2023 #99

+1 betsuni Feb 2023 #101

People, this is not rocket science. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #76

Proof it's not rocket science: we just shot down a spy balloon, after several days at DU... Hekate Feb 2023 #100

Nay. SYFROYH Feb 2023 #82

I don't care. demmiblue Feb 2023 #96

Wow. Iggo Feb 2023 #104