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In reply to the discussion: I gotta wonder if Garland is hoping tRump will pass away or be diagnosed with dementia. [View all]Silent3
(15,909 posts)97. So, whatever the DoJ has decided to prosecute (or not) in the past...
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...and the outcome of all US court decisions must be taken as the gold standard for justice, presumed the best possible outcome and the most proud and upright example of The Rule of Law?
You opined with contempt for the rule of law
No, I opined with contempt about how poorly the institutions responsible for maintaining the rule of law sometimes do their jobs. That seems to be a distinction that you are either unwilling or incapable of grasping.
Hint: The ideal of the rule of law, and the real-life practice of the rule of law, aren't the same thing. Although I doubt you'll give up deliberately acting like I'm criticizing and lacking faith in the former, I'm clearly discussing the latter.
From now on, for God's sake, at least consider that that's what my words mean before you create any more convenient straw men by taking things the other way.
It's "arbitrary" to say that Agnew deserved a whole lot more than three years probation? Read some history! He's quite well known (as was Al Capone) for being morally, if not convictably, guilty of a bit more than tax problems.
Do you think historians should write as if Al Capone did nothing wrong other than cheat on his taxes?
Our legal system is based on the idea that it is "better that ten guilty persons go free than that one innocent person be convicted". Given that concept, it's perfectly valid to worry that guilty people are going to get away a lot.
It's not a startling, wild, crazy idea to further note that this willingness to let some guilty people go free tends to work out disproportionately for the elites, nor note that it almost runs in reverse for some of the underprivileged.
Your lack of faith in certain institutions, which is subjective by any measure
Your overweening faith is likewise subjective, not a privileged, default position.
You didn't merely question Garland and the DOJ, you presumed them to be biased and/or incompetent
I merely do not grant that there is impartiality and competence by default. That's a very different thing than an accusation or presumption of those problems.
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I gotta wonder if Garland is hoping tRump will pass away or be diagnosed with dementia. [View all]
Augiedog
Feb 2023
OP
Jack Smith was supposed to come in from The Hague & start smiting moneychangers in the Temple?
Hekate
Feb 2023
#55
I would start with the GOP members of Congress that requested pardons from Trump
PufPuf23
Feb 2023
#36
I am struck by the phrase "crimes that eluded full recognition and punishment"
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#38
No, my sarcasm does not "presume your significant awareness of all of the above"
Silent3
Feb 2023
#21
Your sarcasm did not address the historical context of denying DOJ your benefit of doubt.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#25
Let's forget for a moment that Nixon received a presidential pardon and was never a target of DOJ.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#37
What can a list of court decisions prove about cases that don't even end up in court?
Silent3
Feb 2023
#84
Seriously, what do the non-cases that don't end up in court prove about justice?
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#85
When yo fail to define justice in any meaningful way, and then claim anxiety over something
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#90
Talking about justice without defining what it means to you is pretty ridiculous on its face.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#92
I see, you are now willing to go along with the universally accepted definition for the rule of law,
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#96
So, Al Capone's involvement with the St. Valentine's Day Massacre is a "non-event"...
Silent3
Feb 2023
#99
Yes, we covered this before, and you've now made the same ridiculous interpretation
Silent3
Feb 2023
#103
Unfounded criticism that doesn't end is bashing. It's not democracy. And it's repugnant.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2023
#73
there are grand juries gathering evidence, taking depositions, questioning witnesses
bigtree
Feb 2023
#28
It would make his job much easier for sure and also boost the, "It's time to move on for the good
jalan48
Feb 2023
#29
it's normally a disparaging term used to slur men or boys thought to have characteristics of women
bigtree
Feb 2023
#40
I don't take issue with the sentiment of your post at all. I agree with it. However,
Sky Jewels
Feb 2023
#87