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redqueen

(115,186 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:28 PM Nov 2012

Innocent people have been executed. Execution is more expensive than life in prison. [View all]

These are facts.

Bloodlust and the desire for vengeance which often fuels it are powerful motivators, but they do not negate facts.


Exonerated After Execution: 12 Men (And One Woman) Found Innocent After Being Put to Death
http://madamenoire.com/73840/exonerated-after-execution-12-men-and-one-woman-found-innocent-after-being-put-to-death/

The execution of Troy Davis in Georgia last week despite tremendous doubt about his guilt has brought the issue of capital punishment into the national spotlight. As a country that supports use of the death penalty, America is in poor company with “the world’s great dictatorships and autocracies [such as] Iran, Zimbabwe, China, North Korea, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Egypt, Ethiopia, Cuba, [and] Belarus” according to The Atlantic — while we are supposed to be the land of the free. Far above and beyond the politically nasty associations with capital punishment is of course the moral concern over accidentally putting innocent people to death. It is likely that the average American believes this is a rare occurrence worth the social value of the death penalty as a deterrent from violent crime. Unfortunately innocent people are often placed on death row.

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Signs Grow of Innocent People Being Executed, Judge Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/12/national/12DEAT.html

Afederal judge in Boston said yesterday that there was mounting evidence innocent people were being executed. But he declined to rule the death penalty unconstitutional.

"In the past decade, substantial evidence has emerged to demonstrate that innocent individuals are sentenced to death, and undoubtedly executed, much more often than previously understood," the judge, Mark L. Wolf of Federal District Court in Boston, wrote in a decision allowing a capital case to proceed to trial.

He cited the exonerations of more than 100 people on death row based on DNA and other evidence.

"The day may come," the judge said, "when a court properly can and should declare the ultimate sanction to be unconstitutional in all cases. However, that day has not yet come."

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Innocence and the Death Penalty
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-and-death-penalty

The most recent exoneree is Damon Thibodeaux (No. 141) of Louisiana in 2012.

List of Exonerees Since 1973 (including criteria for inclusion on List)

Innocence Database Searchable database of all exonerations since 1973--allows you to search and sort for cases by year, state, race, and other variables.

Descriptions of Each Exoneration By Year of Inmate's Release:

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This country uses the death penalty disproportionately against minorities and the poor.


When will it be enough? IMO this needs to stop, now.
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Killing a person who is already in jail makes no sense. Vox Moi Nov 2012 #1
It's long past time. redqueen Nov 2012 #5
It is also not a deterrent. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #2
No, it's only about vengeance. redqueen Nov 2012 #6
Agree ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #3
There are some who are beyond any hope of rehabilitation... redqueen Nov 2012 #7
The system is seriously messed up ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #11
It's an industrial complex, fed in no small part by the drug war. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #15
Agreed 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #4
I completely agree, but it is a cultural thing here. Until we change ourselves, bloodthirsty revenge Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #8
I can't get my head around it. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #9
Kick ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #10
I think your arguments underestimate a societal need for vengeance. msanthrope Nov 2012 #12
The kind of society that "needs" vengeance is a backwards one. redqueen Nov 2012 #13
Welcome to America!! Look, I don't disagree with you that the elephant in the msanthrope Nov 2012 #18
Ah, then we agree. No more catering to this illusory "need"... what we really need redqueen Nov 2012 #21
LWOP aka "death in prison" should be vengeance enough (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #14
Should be, and that's why I think anti-dp advocates should do more msanthrope Nov 2012 #19
The topic *is* an emotional one ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #16
It is--therefore telling pro-DP folks they should not 'feel' a certain way is not, IMHO, an msanthrope Nov 2012 #22
Occasionally you'll find the victim's loved ones with that exact attitude ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #24
It is the same need to punish those that are on public assistance Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #26
I agree. If we are known by our deeds, then I don't want to be part of a killer country. nolabear Nov 2012 #17
When I look at the list of countries who do this... redqueen Nov 2012 #27
This edhopper Nov 2012 #20
We have started the ball rolling on health care, at least. redqueen Nov 2012 #28
Very true, and may I add.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #23
An important point. redqueen Nov 2012 #29
I wrote a paper on this in college Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #25
I think those same results have been duplicated in many studies. redqueen Nov 2012 #30
That is enough for me - TBF Nov 2012 #31
Yeah, the drug war/prison industrial complex is a huge drain on society. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #32
It's silly - if we regulate/tax MJ and let folks use if for medicinal purposes TBF Nov 2012 #33
Yeah, at least that. redqueen Nov 2012 #34
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