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PA Democrat

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2. It is also not a deterrent.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:47 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tamar-abrams/experts-agree-death-penal_b_217394.html

Like many Americans, I have long had an uneasy sense of the death penalty in this country. In order to fully support it, you have to have complete faith in our justice system and in the value of deterrence. Recently the latter has been strongly challenged: A new study shows that 88% of the country's top criminologists do not believe the death penalty acts as a deterrent to homicide. The study was published earlier this week in Northwestern University School of Law's Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology authored by Professor Michael Radelet, Chair of the Department of Sociology at the University of Colorado-Boulder, and Traci Lacock, an attorney and Sociology grad student in Boulder.

"Do Executions Lower Homicide Rates? The Views of Leading Criminologists," relied on questionnaires completed by the most pre-eminent criminologists in the country. Fully 75% of them agree that "debates about the death penalty distract Congress and state legislatures from focusing on real solutions to crime problems." Respondents were not asked for their personal opinions about the wisdom of the death penalty, but instead to answer the questions only on the basis of their understanding of the empirical research.

Given this latest study, it is difficult for me to see any reason for our nation to maintain a policy of executing criminals. Several men and women have been released from prison -- and death row -- over the past decade. Some were just days away from execution. But upon review of DNA and other evidence, they were determined to be innocent. If such a determination had not been made, innocent Americans would have been put to death. Right now, a man who may well be innocent, Troy Davis, is facing execution in Georgia. Seven of nine witnesses have recanted their testimony against him, but no court has ever heard his claim of innocence. Any day now, the U.S. Supreme Court may, or may not, intervene to save his life.

Furthermore, the cost of executing a prisoner is far greater than keeping him in prison for life. A recent New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death.

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Killing a person who is already in jail makes no sense. Vox Moi Nov 2012 #1
It's long past time. redqueen Nov 2012 #5
It is also not a deterrent. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #2
No, it's only about vengeance. redqueen Nov 2012 #6
Agree ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #3
There are some who are beyond any hope of rehabilitation... redqueen Nov 2012 #7
The system is seriously messed up ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #11
It's an industrial complex, fed in no small part by the drug war. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #15
Agreed 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #4
I completely agree, but it is a cultural thing here. Until we change ourselves, bloodthirsty revenge Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #8
I can't get my head around it. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #9
Kick ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #10
I think your arguments underestimate a societal need for vengeance. msanthrope Nov 2012 #12
The kind of society that "needs" vengeance is a backwards one. redqueen Nov 2012 #13
Welcome to America!! Look, I don't disagree with you that the elephant in the msanthrope Nov 2012 #18
Ah, then we agree. No more catering to this illusory "need"... what we really need redqueen Nov 2012 #21
LWOP aka "death in prison" should be vengeance enough (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #14
Should be, and that's why I think anti-dp advocates should do more msanthrope Nov 2012 #19
The topic *is* an emotional one ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #16
It is--therefore telling pro-DP folks they should not 'feel' a certain way is not, IMHO, an msanthrope Nov 2012 #22
Occasionally you'll find the victim's loved ones with that exact attitude ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #24
It is the same need to punish those that are on public assistance Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #26
I agree. If we are known by our deeds, then I don't want to be part of a killer country. nolabear Nov 2012 #17
When I look at the list of countries who do this... redqueen Nov 2012 #27
This edhopper Nov 2012 #20
We have started the ball rolling on health care, at least. redqueen Nov 2012 #28
Very true, and may I add.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #23
An important point. redqueen Nov 2012 #29
I wrote a paper on this in college Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #25
I think those same results have been duplicated in many studies. redqueen Nov 2012 #30
That is enough for me - TBF Nov 2012 #31
Yeah, the drug war/prison industrial complex is a huge drain on society. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #32
It's silly - if we regulate/tax MJ and let folks use if for medicinal purposes TBF Nov 2012 #33
Yeah, at least that. redqueen Nov 2012 #34
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