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Major Nikon

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14. The B-1 was an utter disaster

Sun Feb 19, 2023, 11:20 AM

Feb 2023

The reason why it was developed was because the B-52 fleet wasn't able to penetrate Soviet air defenses far enough to launch cruise missiles to strike the interior of Russia. Carter correctly determined this was no longer necessary based on sound intelligence. After Regan revived the program the costs skyrocketed and it was such an utter piece of shit they didn't use it during the first Gulf War. It was only after throwing billions in modifications that it became even remotely viable.

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Well past time to set the record straight on the Carter presidency [View all] Major Nikon Feb 2023 OP

Damned right! hlthe2b Feb 2023 #1

Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2023 #2

Thank you - needs to be said over and over. The GOP propaganda machine walkingman Feb 2023 #3

Not to mention the fact True Blue American Feb 2023 #18

An evidence free CT. former9thward Feb 2023 #66

Not true! True Blue American Feb 2023 #77

President Clinton was not "required" to sign it. MichMan Feb 2023 #81

Clinton protected workers in amendments! True Blue American Feb 2023 #83

Of course not MichMan Feb 2023 #84

Workers were not protected by anything in NAFTA former9thward Feb 2023 #86

OPEC was created during Carter's term. That had an immediate shock on world oil prices and . OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #4

opec was created in 1960 moonshinegnomie Feb 2023 #15

You are correct. I was mistaken, but it was the OPEC oil embargo that created major problems OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #16

Carter's term started in January 1977. nt Justice matters. Feb 2023 #20

Most importantly, Carter popped the OPEC price bubble peppertree Feb 2023 #31

+1000% Roy Rolling Feb 2023 #78

Thank you for posting this Doc Sportello Feb 2023 #5

Not to be picky, but the actor was James Whitmore who did the wonderful halfulglas Feb 2023 #25

It's not picky Doc Sportello Feb 2023 #52

And if we'd followed Carter"s energy policy, the world would be a cleaner and safer place csziggy Feb 2023 #6

It's a result whenever Republicans claim electoral victory. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #24

No small wonder DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #54

Bush and Cheney families protecting their oil interests. wnylib Feb 2023 #68

He was wrong on the draft, which basically establishes a State Religion. old as dirt Feb 2023 #7

This was a response to the Soviet invasion of Afganistan Major Nikon Feb 2023 #9

Now that we're out of Afghanistan, ... old as dirt Feb 2023 #11

And boy, did he get flack for pardoning the draft evaders. halfulglas Feb 2023 #28

Ford issued a pardon Buzz cook Feb 2023 #47

Remember Bonzo's co-star ran against the draft. Wolf Frankula Feb 2023 #87

a golden age of human rights and sanity. rampartc Feb 2023 #8

A thinking man's presidency bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #10

+1 people mindlessly parrot the old saw about him treestar Feb 2023 #12

Soft of defense? He ordered production of the LGM-118 or MX missile.... paleotn Feb 2023 #13

The B-1 was an utter disaster Major Nikon Feb 2023 #14

Agreed. At the time, effective penetration of Soviet airspace by our bomber fleet,... paleotn Feb 2023 #17

You didn't have to penetrate it for cruise missles Major Nikon Feb 2023 #22

Except that 1 small "mistake" (accidental or even "provoked" by 1 or 2 rogue commanders or bugs...) Justice matters. Feb 2023 #23

All you need DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #56

I recall alot of the Media at the time DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #55

Even back then, it's so much easier to repeat catchy slogans... paleotn Feb 2023 #58

One thing I found out about Carter was about that... TreasonousBastard Feb 2023 #75

and.... markie Feb 2023 #19

Carter messed with drug money banks were moving offshore randr Feb 2023 #21

Jimmy Carter is the President who won the Cold War. Tarzanrock Feb 2023 #26

My image of the Reagan defense increases heckles65 Feb 2023 #27

Plus - the role of Amerada-Hess in the '79 gas lines peppertree Feb 2023 #29

I don't think 2 was all that off, but I'm glad it was like that Polybius Feb 2023 #30

Most underratted President AncientOfDays Feb 2023 #32

All reagan had, at its most basic, was better PR. calimary Feb 2023 #33

Stagflation was caused by OPEC. speak easy Feb 2023 #34

A catalyst exacerbated by failed monetary and fiscal policies Major Nikon Feb 2023 #37

'The reason spikes in oil prices don't cause stagflation today' speak easy Feb 2023 #43

They have Major Nikon Feb 2023 #44

point taken speak easy Feb 2023 #49

Nixon's 1971 removing us from the gold exchange standard was the catalyst for higher inflation. roamer65 Feb 2023 #65

Whip Inflation Now. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #35

I never believed any of that stuff. I also knew Reagan was a half wit. Butterflylady Feb 2023 #36

Carter also gave the prescient but much-maligned "Crisis of Confidence" national address... keep_left Feb 2023 #38

President Carter Ladythatvotesblue Feb 2023 #39

You left out the part about Reagan's treasonous undermining of Carter flashman13 Feb 2023 #40

Bravo, right on target Flash.......... DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #51

Bleak that this is not common knowledge. As with today's issues, where's the media?? JudyM Feb 2023 #63

Our beloved U.S. Media DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #67

But they're librul! JudyM Feb 2023 #69

Yes! EliteLiberal Feb 2023 #64

like it republianmushroom Feb 2023 #41

Thanks for reminding us all of the lies the GOP told about Carter. They built a huge fund-raising Martin68 Feb 2023 #42

So Carter really fixed stagflation by appointing Paul Volcker KNOWING it cost him the election andym Feb 2023 #45

During his term, the number of Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #46

History will judge him far more kindly Ellen Forradalom Feb 2023 #48

I lived through all of these lies. And you are so right about the energy bill. It's worth getting Samrob Feb 2023 #50

Camp David Accords and Buzz cook Feb 2023 #53

He also had the 6th highest IQ of all U.S. presidents DeeDeeNY Feb 2023 #57

K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Feb 2023 #59

I posted on another thread about Carter earlier.... albacore Feb 2023 #60

I can't get over Reagan removing the solar panels Carter had installed on the White House. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #61

It wasn't just GOP propaganda that was unfair. snot Feb 2023 #62

..Ted Koppel..."America Held Hostage" thomski64 Feb 2023 #71

It seems like Carter could have gotten us Universal Health/Medicare for All Stargleamer Feb 2023 #70

Please cite the source of your reading. niyad Feb 2023 #72

I can't find the source of my reading--it's been a while--but this site says something similar Stargleamer Feb 2023 #74

Carter was partly a reaction to Nixon/Watergate. moondust Feb 2023 #73

Hi Major Nikon. Good points. Is it okay if Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #76

The primary challenge by Kennedy was pretty devastating to the re election campaign MichMan Feb 2023 #79

Busy senior also cut the military The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #80

I wept in 1980 BlueMTexpat Feb 2023 #82

Nothing wrong with "Preaching to the choir" Fritz Walter Feb 2023 #85