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Sympthsical

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11. I think you're just about there with your understanding
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:07 PM
Feb 2023

There was a sentiment among many Americans who had lived and fought in the French and Indian War that Native alliances could be mercurial. There were even tribes who allied with different sides in the war but still considered themselves friends with each other.

There was suspicion of what we might term "race loyalty", that they could ally with others to turn against the colonists on a dime. I really do recommend reading the Remonstrance from 1764:

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1764indians-penn.asp

It's a very short document, and you can see how colonists were interacting with a lot of different tribes of varying alliances and loyalties, and a sentiment of, "Just group them all together and be rid of them," was spreading a decade before the Revolution started. Note this:


"Had these Indians disapproved of the perfidy of their tribe, and been willing to cultivate and preserve friendship with us, why did they not give notice of the war before it happened, as it is known to be the result of long deliberations, and a pre-concerted combination among them?"


There's this idea that had taken hold. "Sure, this tribe says they are friends with us now, but the Natives are all secretly in it together!"

It does make no sense on the macro level of reading history, because you're left with the obvious question you've asked, "Why would Washington do that to allies?" But when you get down to the granular level, what was happening in the west, how people along the frontiers interacted with and experienced many different Native tribes, their psychology isn't too, too different from some of the shittery we witness today.

Replace Natives with how people today refer to "the Jews" and it might give insight into what kind of thinking was going around at the time.

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Whether you call the founding fathers "pragmatic" or unbelievably "ruthless" hlthe2b Feb 2023 #1
True. TigressDem Feb 2023 #3
What he said is true. I have known about this wnylib Feb 2023 #30
I had heard about the teeth cruelty, but I didn't know that... brush Feb 2023 #2
CORRECTION: Washington did NOT kill anyone for his dentures. TigressDem Feb 2023 #4
It was made very clear in my elementary school history book that his teeth were made from wood. Earth-shine Feb 2023 #20
They probably looked wooden due to stains. TigressDem Feb 2023 #22
Dentures not acquired by murder, the murder was wiping out entire tribes... brush Feb 2023 #26
YES TigressDem Feb 2023 #28
Excellent. I particularlly like and agree with the graph below. brush Feb 2023 #35
It traces back to the French and Indian War Sympthsical Feb 2023 #5
For some reason, I didn't think of the Indigenous being involved in Revolutionary War. TigressDem Feb 2023 #6
Washington would've been 57 as President Sympthsical Feb 2023 #7
I was reading about French Indian war.... my mistake. I read he was 24 when it was over. TigressDem Feb 2023 #9
Trying to "cliff notes" my lost area of learning, hit the speed bump and lost my place. TigressDem Feb 2023 #10
I think you're just about there with your understanding Sympthsical Feb 2023 #11
What I have read about Indigenous Peoples shows they were allied with each other to a point. TigressDem Feb 2023 #14
I tried to find something short for you that would be encompassing Sympthsical Feb 2023 #17
Some study into reparations led me to Sarah Augustine - and the 1493 Doctrine of Discovery TigressDem Feb 2023 #18
Yours is probably the quicker read. Thanks. TigressDem Feb 2023 #19
Ironically, in High School and part of College I considered career as Cultural Anthropologist TigressDem Feb 2023 #21
There were MANY tribes in the colonies. wnylib Feb 2023 #34
Washington had plans for land investments for himself wnylib Feb 2023 #31
Nt Marcuse Feb 2023 #8
See my #30. wnylib Feb 2023 #32
This country was built on bones, and its framework is white supremacy. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #12
I think we've always had a duality of thought about the Indigenous. TigressDem Feb 2023 #15
War being war isn't an excuse for ethnic cleansing. Solly Mack Feb 2023 #13
True. TigressDem Feb 2023 #16
Washington did not order attacks on ALL of wnylib Feb 2023 #33
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2023 #23
Watched Three Pines about the Canadian treatment of Indigenous. TigressDem Feb 2023 #24
Interesting. H2O Man Feb 2023 #25
So question... TigressDem Feb 2023 #27
Great question! H2O Man Feb 2023 #29
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